What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
- Thread starter Amasov
- Start date
The whole thing with the Duras family was dragged out for way too long.
1. Worf
2. Martok
3. Gowron
4. Lursa
5. B'Etor
2. Martok
3. Gowron
4. Lursa
5. B'Etor
if we are just going with TNG/DS9 I would agree. Klingons all-time, gotta have Kor and Kang in there.
Oh, yeah, Kor, Kang and Koloth would top almost every one of those from the TNG/DS9/VOY Era.
Don’t forget me, my friend. I’ll teach you a way to shoot further and straighter.
He'll make a Klingon out of you...
Krell was a good Klingon for Season 2.
Klingons are overused to the point of being dull, predictable and dreary. The only full-blooded Klingon I find tolerable in large quantities is Martok.
Indeed. Discovery's Klingons appeal to me more than TNG era.
I liked the Klingons in general in TNG/DS9 but I agree they were overused. There was just no good reason to make them adversaries in DS9 S4. And the writers were inconsistent in the amount of reason Klingons could apply to their situation. Sometimes it seemed they could objectively discern when the situation didn’t call for strict adherence to honor, other times they were strictly fanatical.
In Discovery I liked the idea of Klingons seeing themselves as fighting back against Federation cultural expansion but felt they made the makeup look too ridiculous and got a little too silly with the whole Ash/L’rell situation.
In Discovery I liked the idea of Klingons seeing themselves as fighting back against Federation cultural expansion but felt they made the makeup look too ridiculous and got a little too silly with the whole Ash/L’rell situation.
In the 'reboot' movies is way to much violence. Not what the Federation should do: exploration. I think it's better if the new Star Trek movies will be based on exploration instead of fighting.
Given the nature of the premise of STAR TREK, as a series and a franchise, I feel it should stay on tv and keep away from movies.
The very nature of movies, particularly scifi related ones, almost requires them to be blockbuster just to break even. Add to that movies tend to need more action to be... well, 'movies'.
STAR TREK is at its best when it uses action as a helping hand to the story, not be the reason for it.
(And I really love my action and space battles, but I agree that the Kelvin movies just had too much in it. BEYOND was the only one of the three I truly enjoyed.)
The very nature of movies, particularly scifi related ones, almost requires them to be blockbuster just to break even. Add to that movies tend to need more action to be... well, 'movies'.
STAR TREK is at its best when it uses action as a helping hand to the story, not be the reason for it.
(And I really love my action and space battles, but I agree that the Kelvin movies just had too much in it. BEYOND was the only one of the three I truly enjoyed.)
Or a balance with engaging reason for the action and reaction. "Oh look, Spock punching Khan on a jetsons shuttle floating in San Francisco!" is generic without backdrop and intrigue. The movie lost intrigue the moment it ditched John Harrison as pseudonym in favor of "Khan" for empty nostalgiawank, and the movie DID have some massive potential and did address a topic via his inclusion (this making the disappointments comparatively grating compared to what worked well. Indeed, "Beyond" shared some themes but did them better... even with Beastie Boys music (the context won me over, anyway), and I never expected to like pop music in sci-fi. (the Way to Eden was an original work even if it was riffing hippie acid rock...))
So had the Borg and Vulcans in Voyager. (but they all started cool and everyone wanted more. The ideas inevitably peter out and get regurgitated and reused and sometimes details forgotten.)
The idea of John Harrison, a human with advanced tech and a grudge against Starfleet was really interesting, when he announced “I am Khan” I audibly groaned in disgust in the cinema.
I was trying my absolute hardest to repress laughter during the Kirk death scene that was supposed to mirror Spock's death scene in TWOK. And I could barely hold it in. My brother, who was in the theater with me when I was trying my hardest not to laugh, noticed too.
Then I just lost it when Spock started screaming "KHAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!" Funniest thing ever. It felt like a parody to me.
When it became Angry Spock vs. Harrison-Khan, again, I couldn't take it seriously, and just started laughing again.
After Kirk came back and he was going through all the whatever he was going through, it reminded me of a Transformers movie.
Yeah. I'm not a fan of this one.
STID starts well but ends as hot garbage. If it's one of the good ones in your rankings that's fine and more power to you. IDIC and all that. But wow, that movie does not hold up well under repeated viewings.
Similar threads
- Locked
