News Berlanti Prod. developing "Wonder Girl" TV show for The CW
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Joëlle Jones is doing a Wonder Girl series, maybe scripts and some art are already done for that as reference for the show?
People working on the TV front must be connected to people in the comics division so that's kind of cool to know, actually. That it's not a complete vacuum, though how strong the connection might be isn't something I could even guess to.
There would have to have been some kind of direct contact between Joelle and Dailyn given how long the development process is for both TV and comics.
I guess now we know why the character was killed off in the TITANS series (which was too bad because I very much enjoyed the actress they had for the character; and the characterization.)
I wonder who approached who?
I could see somebody going to DC/WB and saying "Hey, I want to do a supehero show", and then being given a list of available characters to pick from.
Even if she wasn't coming back, I doubt this series would have any impact on Titans' Donna Troy since it's a totally different character.
From a legal standpoint, it seems, character is defined based on the superhero name rather than the civilian identity. For instance, if you look at the creator credits in the end titles of Young Justice, they say "Nightwing created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez," even though Nightwing is Dick Grayson, a character created by Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson, and (nominally) Bob Kane. So DC might consider any "Wonder Girl" to be functionally the same character.
Sorry, but the Caitlin Snow situation showed that WB/DC applying creator credits for characters are hard fought battles by the creators, so they are no measure for what they consider legally the same character.
The same idea underlay years of litigation between DC and Jerry Siegel, on the premise that Superboy (the “Superman when he was a boy” version) was a character distinct from Superman. Legal issues and my sympathy for Siegel aside, the notion never made a lot of sense to me — they’re both the same person, Clark Kent, just at different points in his life.
In fact, that fits exactly with what I said. DC doesn't consider Caitlin Snow an original creation because they define her as a derivative character based on Killer Frost. And the same goes for the other characters Conway references in your link:
Those are all derivative characters -- Jason Todd from Robin, Power Girl from Supergirl, Superboy from Superman, Barry Allen from The Flash. DC bases character identity on the role, the superhero name, rather than the individual wielder. So it follows that since both Donna Troy and Yara Flor are derivative from Wonder Woman, DC would consider them variations on the same character, rather than as separate characters.
After all, the shows are titled after the superhero names, not the civilian names. So it's the superhero names that matter to branding, publicity, merchandising, all that money and business stuff that matters more to the suits and bean counters than stuff like story and character.
I did not know that, I always assumed it was based on the character's civilian identity. So if I were to become a DC writer and introduce a character who stuck around and took a superhero name in a different person's run, the "created by" credit would go to the person who gave them the superhero name, rather than me?
Would the fact that Yara Flora is being introduced as Wonder Woman, and then becoming Wonder Girl later make a difference?
Would the fact that Yara Flora is being introduced as Wonder Woman, and then becoming Wonder Girl later make a difference?
I don't know about that. If the character existed before adopting the identity, it would be harder to claim them as a derivative creation. The point is that DC is a corporation and wants to hog all the money it can, so if it can convince a court that your character is an offshoot of someone else's character, they can deny you credit for it. But if you unambiguously created the character first, then later changes probably wouldn't make a difference.
In the case of Dick Grayson, presumably Kane and Finger get credit for creating him as Robin, but Wolfman and Perez get credit for creating him as Nightwing. So by the same token, if Lois Lane became Wonder Woman (which may actually have happened at some point), Siegel & Shuster would still get credit for Lois Lane, but William Moulton Marston would still get credit for Wonder Woman, which would probably include Lois Lane-as-Wonder Woman.
The show is called Wonder Girl. As I said, what matters to the suits is the branding, the promotion and publicity, the merchandising. That's why we could get a show with a teenage Bruce Wayne on the air at the same time Batman was appearing in movies, even though we couldn't get a live-action show with an adult Batman on the air at the same time as the Batman movies. It's about the brand.
Except they also didn't acknowledge Conway and Milgrom, the creators of the original Killer Frost, as the creators of Caitlin Snow. It was really a way of getting out of paying royalties to eitther party.
Yes, I know, I can read -- and I've already read that particular article a couple of times before. The point is what underlies that fact -- that the excuse they used for denying them credit was that the character identity came from the superhero name, not the civilian identity. It's one example of the same larger principle I'm talking about.
Testy ....
Surprisingly so. (Or is it?)
I looked up sexy Latins under 25.
It's on a phone that I haven't turned off the decency filters, so the results weren't so porny.
http://www.latina.com/entertainment/50-brightest-latino-stars-under-25
Half way down the list, it said that Manny from Modern Family is 14, so this list is 8 years old.
SIGH!!!!!
Alexa Vega has a relationship with the CW.
But they are probably going to go for an unknown.
It's on a phone that I haven't turned off the decency filters, so the results weren't so porny.
http://www.latina.com/entertainment/50-brightest-latino-stars-under-25
Half way down the list, it said that Manny from Modern Family is 14, so this list is 8 years old.
SIGH!!!!!
Alexa Vega has a relationship with the CW.
But they are probably going to go for an unknown.
A bit fast for a new comics character getting other media exposure, I mean her comic hasn't even come out yet.
Apparently she will be sticking around as the new Wonder girl.
Apparently she will be sticking around as the new Wonder girl.
They want to milk a virgin demographic.
Vibe don't bring all the Latins to the Yard.
Hawkgirl?
That was soooooooooooooooo long ago.
Vibe don't bring all the Latins to the Yard.
Hawkgirl?
That was soooooooooooooooo long ago.