There's supposedly a series in development code-named 1992, about the Eugenics Wars. And the Eugenics Wars may or may not be linked to World War III.I'm not following.
Star Trek's Hidden Years
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by all but becoming a Vulcan client state for awhile.
I always thought that happened because the Vulcans helped in the cleanup and rebuilding.
I mean, come on. They had to. No WAY does Earth recover from a NUCLEAR WAR in only 50 years without help.
And if you were the Vulcans, wouldn't you want payback for services rendered?
Considering how surrounded Vulcans were by enemies, grooming a friendly ally not too dissimilar from themselves does seem logical. They had tried before and failed.I always thought that happened because the Vulcans helped in the cleanup and rebuilding.
I mean, come on. They had to. No WAY does Earth recover from a NUCLEAR WAR in only 50 years without help.
And if you were the Vulcans, wouldn't you want payback for services rendered?
But that's the answer to the question right there as to "how Earth recovered": the Vulcans did it. Not really much of a mystery.
That also wouldn't really be a "World War 3" show anymore. That would be a post-First Contact show/Enterprise prequel.
That also wouldn't really be a "World War 3" show anymore. That would be a post-First Contact show/Enterprise prequel.
Just checked Memory Beta there is a Betazoid officer in the novel Drastic Measures and the planet joined the UFP befoe 2246 so if the writers stick to the novels, Betazoids are already members by the time of SNW.
But they can alway retcon that.
Here's how I look at Star Trek's major hidden periods (not to scale):
2155-2254 = The Atlantic Ocean
2293-2364 = The Pacific Ocean
2399-3188 = From Earth to the Moon
2155-2254 = The Atlantic Ocean
2293-2364 = The Pacific Ocean
2399-3188 = From Earth to the Moon
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What I’m interested in is less revisiting things we’ve heard about but making brand new canon in an earlier time frame. Why? Because an earlier Federation - to think about post-ENT and pre-DISCO - opens up new storytelling opportunities. What was that like, a growing, insecure Federation? That can say something new in Trek. You don’t even have to reference anything beyond the broad strokes of what’s been mentioned before. Make it new and exciting. It’s not a prequel, it’s a story in an earlier time period.
Betazed maybe known, but not a member of the federation yet? and plenty of extances of people outside the federation being members of starfleet. Maybe a protectorate or working towards membership.
A series between 2161 and 2255 would be a bit boring in that.. There are no Romulans. As per Disco, Klingons are also not there for that near 100 year period. So who is there to be the major villian? You'd have to create one for the crew to face off against.
A series between 2161 and 2255 would be a bit boring in that.. There are no Romulans. As per Disco, Klingons are also not there for that near 100 year period. So who is there to be the major villian? You'd have to create one for the crew to face off against.
Orions could use a bit of cultural expansion? With a completely new, recurring adversary you'd kinda have to explain why they aren't around anymore for the later shows. I think that's also one of the reasons why Ent ended up the way it did, with all the Temp Cold war nonsense, and having Klingons show up in Ep #1 and all that.
That's why I'd kinda prefer a show set in the future.
There wouldn't even have to be a Betazoid starfleet officer. Even just mentioning the planet as maybe a known friendly world where starships can re-supply would be cool already in my book. Same with Trill (or is it Trillius Prime? Was it ever established?)
That's why I'd kinda prefer a show set in the future.
There wouldn't even have to be a Betazoid starfleet officer. Even just mentioning the planet as maybe a known friendly world where starships can re-supply would be cool already in my book. Same with Trill (or is it Trillius Prime? Was it ever established?)
I wouldn't want it to be ladden down by it either, or turn into a reference fest. Just like ocassional stuff, have a Boslic appear, or a Tellarian. Put a Nausicaan or a Bajoran in the background at a space station. Or things like that Trill woman in that Short Treks episode. The story wasn't about her, she didn't do anything Trill-specific, she was just there. That'd be already enough for me.
Yep, same.
Orions, as well as those Federation founders - Andorians and most especially Tellarites! Tellarites are founding members of the Federation, but so little's been done with them, practically a blank state.
I'm all for setting shows in the far future, but I like to think of Star Trek as a canvas with many possibilities and time periods that can offer something new and different. Just because it's set before TOS doesn't mean we have to see what we've seen or known before.
Orions, as well as those Federation founders - Andorians and most especially Tellarites! Tellarites are founding members of the Federation, but so little's been done with them, practically a blank state.
I'm all for setting shows in the far future, but I like to think of Star Trek as a canvas with many possibilities and time periods that can offer something new and different. Just because it's set before TOS doesn't mean we have to see what we've seen or known before.
Although FC & ENT have now totally "canonized" over the top of it..........
Some 80's licensed publications (without a 3rd world war) showed a u(U)nited Earth making its own way into space and Zephram Cochrane "of Alpha Centauri" discovering the space warp. Early warp 2/3 Earth ships then expanding out and encountering the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites - but not all encounters are friendly. The warlike Andorians, in partcular, are a substanial threat for many years.
Lasers, missiles & hull armour.
Aeroshuttles, no transporters
Radar/visual spectrum imaging & analysis, no sensors.
"Get your hands dirty" planetry exploration and surveying, no tricorders.
No Prime Directive (with comensurate first contact disasters!), no translation devices.
And no Klingons, Romulans etc.
And , especially, no Borg !!!!!
Like I said, no longer in line with any aspect of TNG+ Trek, but that's a period I would love to see explored.
Some 80's licensed publications (without a 3rd world war) showed a u(U)nited Earth making its own way into space and Zephram Cochrane "of Alpha Centauri" discovering the space warp. Early warp 2/3 Earth ships then expanding out and encountering the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites - but not all encounters are friendly. The warlike Andorians, in partcular, are a substanial threat for many years.
Lasers, missiles & hull armour.
Aeroshuttles, no transporters
Radar/visual spectrum imaging & analysis, no sensors.
"Get your hands dirty" planetry exploration and surveying, no tricorders.
No Prime Directive (with comensurate first contact disasters!), no translation devices.
And no Klingons, Romulans etc.
And , especially, no Borg !!!!!
Like I said, no longer in line with any aspect of TNG+ Trek, but that's a period I would love to see explored.
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I bet after Picard wraps, we'll probably have a Stargazer prequel at some point. They'll want to find a way to keep the character going. Which would pretty much give us that era.
Honestly I'd prefer if the writers don't consider the Novelverse or other Beta canon/expanded universe material.
I know the Novelverse is important for many people because it gives them more material with their favourite characters, but personally I was never a fan.
Plus the writers are already (somewhat) bound to actual Canon, so let's not stifle their creativity further by throwing the Novel continuity into the mix.
So some licensed novel, somewhere saying that there's a Betazoid SF officer by the 2240s doesn't mean much for SNW or any other show.
I think that back in the pre TNG 70's & 80's when the only ST was the novels, occasional films, very rare (here in the UK anyway) TV reruns, RPG's and "making of" & setting books; novels played a vital role in keeping Trek alive. But now, in our streaming/internet world, maybe not so much.
Although most novels were just entertaining, and no more, I think that ONE novel deserved to be brought firmly onto the tv screen. But that ship sailed far too long ago .............(sigh).
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That sounds cool to me @mike hill ! Like I said before, I'd love to see something in that post-ENT pre-Disco period, but that doesn't have the usual suspects (Klingons), or picks up on hinted canon, and instead uses the time frame to tell the kinds of stories that that timeframe would lend itself to.
Oh right I did not consider the time before Star Trek was frequently repeated on TV or available on DVD/Streaming Services.
Just for curiosity's sake, which is the one novel you'd like to see adapted and why? Something to do with the First Contact? Or one of the Rhiannsu books?
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