By a slim sliver of fandom. Most of the rest of us have few or no problems with the first Kelvinverse movie.
The 2009 movie kicked ST:TMP off its pedestal as the biggest Trek moneymaker since 1979.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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By a slim sliver of fandom. Most of the rest of us have few or no problems with the first Kelvinverse movie.
The 2009 movie kicked ST:TMP off its pedestal as the biggest Trek moneymaker since 1979.
Prelude showed us the USS Ares (essentially the TOS-parts version of the designer's earlier Next Gen movie-era USS Titan) but ALL the other Federation ships were plucked from the fleet scene in the first of the JJ movies. And the Axanar fans were too busy waving "tru Trek!" banners to notice that, or that Tobias Richter was blatantly recreating scenes from the first two movies in Prelude
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That lower left image of the Klingon ship crashing is so bad.Prelude showed us the USS Ares (essentially the TOS-parts version of the designer's earlier Next Gen movie-era USS Titan) but ALL the other Federation ships were plucked from the fleet scene in the first of the JJ movies. And the Axanar fans were too busy waving "tru Trek!" banners to notice that, or that Tobias Richter was blatantly recreating scenes from the first two movies in Prelude
A slim but vocal segment which had an increased intensity as the films wore on.
The empty can rattles the loudest.
Honestly Prelude is a big "meh". The script is nothing. The characters are nothing. The only thing that makes it work at all is the star power of the pros in the cast, who make the material seem better than it is. But, as @Admiral2 says, even there the performances are weirdly low key. I recently watched a video about a team that got a derelict B-29 airworthy and the reaction of one of the women who had worked on the assembly line shows you just how emotional people can be about things they did 70 years ago.
Richter's VFX are generally nice but they have zero energy. The rolling camera gimmick wears itself out real fast.
Richter's VFX are generally nice but they have zero energy. The rolling camera gimmick wears itself out real fast.
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I completely agree but the appeal is still there. Axanar just successfully tapped in to that anger rather than moving on from Trek to other things.
Regular Trek fandom continues without those angry men. I simply do not associate with fans who display that kind of toxic negativity, which is completely at odds with Star Trek values, such as IDIC.
Most do, as you note. I personally don't mind engaging in a mutual discussion but such things are quite rare.
Nevertheless, that is the source of Axanar's popularity.
Popularity with a very minor (but angry/loud) sector of fandom.
Have we gotten any kind of response from him yet? They seemed to be pretty open about the fact that they are making it, so I would assume he has to know about it.
And apparently with money to burn.
Well, people do always talk about how seeing Star Trek as kids inspired them to become doctors, computer programmers, and engineers.
...and suckers born every minute who will embrace a grift.
Just because I watched Mr. Scott at the age of 10 and retired a 44 year engineer doesn't mean I was inspired by Star Trek. Reflecting on TOS, Mr Scott was a maintenance engineer. TNG's Noonien Soong possibly created things that didn't previously exist, in my book that's an engineer.
Totally different things.
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Peters Offers 'Generous' Settlement in Suit Against Ex-Axanar Director Jenkins
What does Alec Peters hope to gain?
Here are the headlines in today's AxaMonitor Daily:
Peters Offers 'Generous' Settlement in Suit Against Ex-Axanar Director Jenkins
What does Alec Peters hope to gain?
Here are the headlines in today's AxaMonitor Daily:
- Lawyer weighs in on how good Peters' settlement may be
- Will the new Axanar 'trailer' breathe life into moribund fundraiser?
- Peters: Fan film guidelines have been neutered; no one's following them
- Peters questions 'Romulan War' fan film's reusing others' copyrighted footage
- YouTuber casts doubt on Axanar fans' victim narrative
Axanar has released a better quality version of their latest trailer
Reading some of the YouTube comments baffles me.
Continuing on with our conversations about what attracts new fans to the Axanar project, these commenters are praising the content of this very trailer - when there's virtually nothing of substance there! Certainly nothing to suggest what the "true vision" of Axanar is, yet the commenters keep extolling those virtues as "true Trek"
Reading some of the YouTube comments baffles me.
Continuing on with our conversations about what attracts new fans to the Axanar project, these commenters are praising the content of this very trailer - when there's virtually nothing of substance there! Certainly nothing to suggest what the "true vision" of Axanar is, yet the commenters keep extolling those virtues as "true Trek"
I suspect, for them, true Trek (tm) is skin deep. White people. Ships that resemble the familiar. Pew pew. Men are men and women are there to be toyed with and wear short skirts. Only a few foreigners allowed, serving at the pleasure of a mainly white, quasi (and not so quasi) militaristic organization, often with little power (Spock notwithstanding -- he was an alien but also clearly very humanoid and of an acceptable shade).
Also, not for nothin', but apart from the velour uniforms, the costumes just plain do not fit. This is even on slender people. They are all, without exception, cut too small in the arm holes. This is why they bunch up at the armpits and shoulders.
What kills me is, this could've been an easy and fairly cheap fix. Buy a few black turtlenecks, the undershirts they were using will do – just sacrifice one or two to the cause – and hire a local tailor/seamstress (hell, even the sewing people at a local dry cleaner can do it, and they don't have to be particularly talented) to add gores (see for definition: http://www.renaissancetailor.com/demos_goresgussets.htm) to the underarms and the problem is solved. It also neatly solves a potential other issue, that of successfully camouflaging any sweat stains as it's Georgia and it can get hot there, particularly in case you need to turn down/off the a/c in order to improve sound quality.
Axanar: The True Trek for the White, Middle-Aged Conservative Gentleman. I think there's a lot more truth in that than anyone in camp Axanar is prepared to admit.
That trailer, ugh. I didn't like the cast telling me what I'm going to see, show me. There was also some of the rough CGI sequences I'm pretty sure were in one of RMB's videos. Those should've been finished before being put in any kind of trailer. For crying outloud we've been hearing "Axanar is ocming" for years, and it's still no closer to happening.
Where's the movie?
And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Where's the movie?
And that's all I'm going to say about that.