Lol, I've been a die hard trekkie since the 1970s, back when there only was one. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Gene Roddenberry would f'ing love Discovery, and so do I. To any Michael haters I have only one thing to say; "Shut up, Wesley".
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x02 - "Far From Home"
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Lol, I've been a die hard trekkie since the 1970s, back when there only was one. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Gene Roddenberry would f'ing love Discovery, and so do I. To any Michael haters I have only one thing to say; "Shut up, Wesley".
Michael, as a character, is misunderstood and massively underrated by some. She’s very complex with lots of subtext and hidden depth. It saddens me when she gets undue flak.
Well, the real undue flak comes from the Mary Sue contingents. It's perfectly legitimate to criticize her soliloquies and how she's often written. Sonequa does a fantastic job with what she's given and I don't think Burnham is anything close to a Mary Sue but there are issues with how she was written in Seasons 1 and 2 and when those arguments get labeled as "hating" for the sake of attacking it's not beneficial to the debate. Michael in the season premiere last week was great, the best she's been in a long time. But if her writing reverts to "grandstand at least once per episode and be agonizingly dull in her interactions with her friends and crewmates" then the criticism will be on strong ground.
You mean the Coridanites? They're from Enterprise, Discovery didn't alter the makeup much, just added some changes to the ears
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1319699251593662469
Despite the saloon stuff dragging on it was a very good episode. Being away from Burnham was good as it gave us a better look at a strong crew. Saru top notch as usual and Owo and Detmer is such a good team that we should get more of in some Data/Geordie or O'Brien/Bashir stories, Reno Stamets and Culber made me laugh and am warming to Reno despite finding the actors comedy a bit overhyped IRL. Georgiou is the massive let down it is just not believable in any sense that she would be let near the crew or
and her moments with Tilly were the first time I have ever liked Tilly in this show
And even though I havnt been much of a fan of the show in season 1 or 2
Be stronger at taking phaser blasts because she is badass
Especially being the only one calling her out for being an absolute p***k in the meeting
And even though I havnt been much of a fan of the show in season 1 or 2
or a fan of Burnham seeing her on the viewscreen made me smile big then well up
In the 32nd century?
Yeah, sure, of course.
I can't speak to the Borg example because I only watched the episode once. And I've never once been a fan of the Borg concept as a whole, so whatever they do with them I'm like, I really don't care.I was not refering to the Pandorian looking environment. I don‘t like that style for Star Trek every franchise has his style and Trek is loosing its uniqueness here in my eyes, but thats a different topic.
I was talking about about the unbelievable stress resistence of newer days starships. Just a few examples from the last four Trek Episodes:
Borg ship crashed without engines on a planet, landed fully intact.
The ship from last week crash landed in a way like throwing a dart into sand, stay intact.
Discovery collides with an asteriod size object at orbital speed, stays intact 
The other two, though:
Last week, Book's ship, the Nautilus... 32nd century shield technology. Easy.
This week, rewatch the scene and think it through. What they hit obviously wasn't as dense and solid as it could have been. It was as if the asteroid they hit was akin to just breaking through a large piece of ice, parasitic ice. And the way it crumbled obviously demonstrated that it wasn't something that would destroy the ship. And as I mentioned upthread, the crash landing was again, Saru's "Ready the graviton beam. Activate deflector shields inverse to cushion our landing, on my mark." Soften the surface so as to land easy with the least amount of damage.
EDIT: So yeah, Star Trek physics.
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it’s hard to comment on generalised comments without specifics. I totally agree about the Mary Sue comments, though I think that comes down more to people not really understanding what a Mary Sue actually is, but a generic version of it.
Starfleet is supposed to be stuffed full with the best of the best. Nobody complained when Scotty or O'Brien waved their hands and did an impossible thing, we cheered. Even besides the character, Sonequa is a brilliant actor, and I completely bought her relationship with Spock, and the subtle changes she made to her delivery when talking with him or about him. She was his big sister, 100%. Unless.... you'd rather..... she acted..... like this?
The problem with that is that she isn't actually a brilliant actor.
She's stiff and wooden, and brings that to pretty much all of the parts she plays.
Oh, she and Ethan Peck were great together. I never had problems with the Michael-Spock interactions. They both mastered those scenes together.
Ooh, no; I couldn’t disagree more.
I dunno, she was one of the more energetic and life-filled performances in her last season on The Walking Dead.
I thought the same and was surprised when Saru started telling the crew to brace as I thought they were all n the bridge anyway
If they mess with Detmer like that I am out for good. It will be a PTSD story where she needs here confidence back and maybe fall in love with me in the process...... did I say that last bit out loud ?
The only awful bit of the early seasons that wasnt left behind. The MU stuff should have been buried along with Clem Fandango and the klingons
If you mean, before they made the time jump? Not all of them. There were, what, 86 members of the crew in this episode? Yet in earlier seasons, the total crew complement is in the 130's.
So it would appear that some of the crew decided to stay behind on the Enterprise in "Such Sweet Sorrow".
It was set to lower a setting.
And you don't need to spoiler tag spoilers from the episode in the spoiler thread.
88 on the ship in this episode. Tilly tells the bad guy that and corrects his estimate of the crew complement.
First episode of season three proved she isn’t stiff or wooden. Actor has to have decent material to work with.
Ya but O'Brien is the most important person in the history of starfleet. And dont forget thats canon now
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