Pretty sure having undisclosed medical issues makes someone more of an insurance liability, not less. Especially if it's the kind that interferes with day-to-day shooting and thus can't be kept quiet.
Who said anything about anyone hating anyone?
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Don't try that kind of destraction. The question is, if Ruby Rose supposedly threw their planned story arcs into chaos with so little notice, which is the point you made about her being unprofessional, why then did they create a completely new character instead of simply recasting the existing one?
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Anyway, who says the producers had little notice? We can't assume that just because we were taken by surprise. It might've been the end result of months of discussion. Naturally they wouldn't have let the public know until the season was over, even if they'd already known well in advance.
Indeed, they must have known well before we did, given how soon we got the announcement about the new lead being created. Rose's departure was announced on May 19; the casting news for Ryan Wilder broke June 2, just two weeks later. There's no way they could've developed plans for a new lead character and new seasonal arc, with sufficient finality that they were ready to begin casting, in a mere two weeks. Obviously they knew long before we did. Some fans seem to think that everything that happens behind the scenes is publicly announced the same day it happens, which is not at all the way it works. Usually there are weeks or months between a decision being made and its public announcement, since all the paperwork has to be settled, all the parties involved have to be in agreement, the PR people have to weigh in on how and when they want the announcement to happen, etc.
Indeed, they must have known well before we did, given how soon we got the announcement about the new lead being created. Rose's departure was announced on May 19; the casting news for Ryan Wilder broke June 2, just two weeks later. There's no way they could've developed plans for a new lead character and new seasonal arc, with sufficient finality that they were ready to begin casting, in a mere two weeks. Obviously they knew long before we did. Some fans seem to think that everything that happens behind the scenes is publicly announced the same day it happens, which is not at all the way it works. Usually there are weeks or months between a decision being made and its public announcement, since all the paperwork has to be settled, all the parties involved have to be in agreement, the PR people have to weigh in on how and when they want the announcement to happen, etc.
...because the Rose was the lead--portraying a character all plot events were orbiting, but now that the showrunners had to create a new character / explain why Kate would suddenly disappear from the alter ego and city she came to embrace (not to mention her growing friendship with Luke), bringing her back would seem like an act of contrition, rather than any organic, story-oriented motive. At this point, no one knows how the replacement will turn out, but one thing is certain, Ruby Rose made that series and based on how she impacted the series, the show has taken a major hit.
Mate, I know a attempt at a strawman when I see it. Knock it off.
But whatever; as to why they recast the character instead of just the role, that's already already been discussed at length up thread and I have little interest in re-litigating the subject. Personally I suspect that they knew recasting Kate would have been more trouble than it's worth. Most of the audience wouldn't accept it, it'd be weird and difficult for the other actor since them chemistry between star and cast would inevitably be different, possibly even to the point of being unworkable. A soft reboot is the less messy option.
That's all just vague opinion though. For the real answer you'd have to ask the showrunners.
So, you didn't say they wouldn't rehire her for a guest spot because she acted unprofessionally by quitting short notice and thereby throwing their plans in disarray? Because that's what your previous posts seemed to say.Have to disagree with you there, a soft reboot after a single season is at least as risky as recasting, and actually more work for the producers, since they had to create a new character from scratch.
So, can we assume the same for the circumstances of Rose leaving the show, and whether they'd bring her back for a guest spot?
Sorry, that wasn't my intent.
Better for who, the actor who’s now seen as too injured to work, or the production that’s seen as having physically broken their lead so badly she couldn’t stay on?
Better for everyone all around. Rose gets a legitimate out from playing a very physical role that could legitimately exacerbate an injury, and the production gets to not have the implication that they have an unhappy set with a difficult star.
Most roles don't require heavy stunt work, so it'll hardly restrict her from getting dramatic roles. Plus, injuries heal and she might be perfectly fine in a year or two and it'd be understandable that a network show simply can't wait that long with out it's lead actor. Either way, it's FAR more preferable than looking like a flake as that is going to close WAY more doors.
Accidents happen on stunt heavy shows. People get hurt. So long as appropriate safety measures were observed and there's no criminal or civil suits, there's no stigma. Hell, sometimes not even then. The Force Awakens' production damn near killed Harrison Ford and barely took any serious flak in the trade press at all.
Nobody ever really buys the whole PR "mutual decision", "creative differences" type excuses, and every PR person knows they're not fooling anyone. It almost always means there's trouble, but they're just not willing to say what kind and with whom, because a vague sense that something is up is better than having ALL the dirty laundry on full display.
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Neither do I. It seems that something had been going on prior to the news being made public. It is possible that Ruby and the production team had been working together to make something work for a while.
to be fair Denise Crosby left because she thought she was going to have a career in feature films. when that didn't pan out and she started running out of money because she couldn't get a high paying gig; I'm sure that's when she reevaluated and saw that getting a big paycheck for standing on a set and occasionally saying "Hailing frequencies open sir..."; wasn't a bad gig at all.
Remember that she left at a time when everyone thought TNG was going to be a one-season wonder and added as a fourth season to the TOS syndication package. had she known it was going to run seven seasons and lead to its own series of feature films, I'm sure she would have stuck it out.
I don't buy the notion that Kate's story was finished because it clearly wasn't, but my skepticism on that front doesn't mean that the rest of Ruby's comments on the situation aren't true.
True, and no matter which statement, interview of theory one chooses to believe, the bottom line is that the next season has much to explain that cannot be settled with someone saying (hypothetically) that Kate had to go find herself, either because of her father's hatred of Batwoman, her love life, or anything else.
Batman is not going to be happy with Kate.
She killed his cousin.
Kate is from a different universe, and she killed her doppelganger, supplanted her life, and is sucking on Batman's teat using all his toys as if she was his cousin, when she is not.
Kate is just as much of an alien as Not-Alice was, and Bruce is going to throw her into a secret prison for trying to trick him.
Have the producers really forgotten that all this Paragon shit happened?
She killed his cousin.
Kate is from a different universe, and she killed her doppelganger, supplanted her life, and is sucking on Batman's teat using all his toys as if she was his cousin, when she is not.
Kate is just as much of an alien as Not-Alice was, and Bruce is going to throw her into a secret prison for trying to trick him.
Have the producers really forgotten that all this Paragon shit happened?
That universe and that Batman don’t exist anymore.
This encapsulates my thoughts. I was going to post something similar, but I couldn't find hard sources to support it. I wouldn't necessarily except to find hard sources anyway. There's not much hard reporting to the contrary that I could find, but there's a lot of innuendo and gossip out there.
I don't get why people assume that. The multiverse was restored at the end. That closing montage made it clear that the other universes were recreated too, not just Earth Prime. We didn't see every single one brought back, no, because that would've taken too long, but the whole point was to recreate everything, and we saw enough restored Earths that we can extrapolate that the rest came back too, not just those few.
The point is, the Batman of that Earth isn''t coming to Earth Prime looking to bust Prime-Kate in the chops. His Earth probably still has it's own Kate.