That's not controversial, most places. TrekBBS, yeah.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Fleming, who was half Scottish himself, had been developing Bond's backstory long before Connery was cast as Bond. His notes and correspondences both show he was mulling the idea at least as early as 1960.
Regardless, Bond is never described in the novels (or films) as "English", as far as I know, though admittedly it's been years since I've read or watched anything Bond related.
ENT is a better Trek series than either DSC or VOY.
Elizabeth Taylor was not Greek
Tell this to the Ethiopian Jews. European Jews in the Western era from the Middle Ages might be classified as Caucasian, but I doubt the Jews mentioned in their holy texts were.
Not all Jews are white.
I think the Europeans in the Middle Ages might disagree,
Yeah cos they were a bunch of prejudiced ignoramuses, Nation hood and religion trumped skin colour back then I suppose.I think the Europeans in the Middle Ages might disagree,
Going to ignore the race stuff because it ain't Star Trek.
My controversial thought... Sisko made a lame personnel decision in Season 7. The station really did need a good counselor. However, Ezri Dax was probably the most neurotic person on the station. Hardly a good counselor trait, right?
My controversial thought... Sisko made a lame personnel decision in Season 7. The station really did need a good counselor. However, Ezri Dax was probably the most neurotic person on the station. Hardly a good counselor trait, right?
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Blame the operation, she was not prepared, she went to sleep one person and woke up as eight.
Otherness takes many forms. Jews had the disadvantage of be a different culture, religion and even skin color.
Have you seen Star Trek?
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DUH!! It's right in my profile.
Oh, I know it's not Ezri's fault. The Trill symbiosis evaluation board goes through thousands of candidates. They choose the best and brightest, but also those they feel can withstand the shock of having possibly over a dozen personalities added to their psyche (a symbiont can live 550 years). Then, they undergo years of study to further prepare themselves. Finally, they are paired with a symbiont who is carefully matched with them, personality wise.
With Ezri, it was just "we're putting this slug in you, hope you don't mind."
It's amazing she managed as well as she did!
DUH!! It's right in my profile.
Oh, I know it's not Ezri's fault. The Trill symbiosis evaluation board goes through thousands of candidates. They choose the best and brightest, but also those they feel can withstand the shock of having possibly over a dozen personalities added to their psyche (a symbiont can live 550 years). Then, they undergo years of study to further prepare themselves. Finally, they are paired with a symbiont who is carefully matched with them, personality wise.
With Ezri, it was just "we're putting this slug in you, hope you don't mind."
It's amazing she managed as well as she did!
No, but she was white, as was Cleopatra. Greek is a nationality. I don’t expect the entertainment industry to be so narrow-minded or pedantic that we have to start castling Greeks as Greeks and Americans as Americans.
Anyone who gets offended by things like this needs to get their priorities in order.
Ethnic Jews don’t often marry outside their own ethnicity. This is true, of course, of every ethnicity on earth, but especially true among ethnic Jews.
Genealogical and genetic research show remarkably little change in the DNA of modern day Egyptians compared to ancient Egyptians. I use them as the case because, other than the Jews, they would have been the most likely to have foreign DNA forcibly mixed into their own through conquest.
The Jews of Jesus’s age, or even Moses’s age, would not look out of place in modern Israel.
The example of Ethiopian Jews is irrelevant to the discussion. There were no Ethiopian Jews in Moses’s day. There weren’t even any in Jesus’s day. They were Christians who converted to Judaism centuries after the death and resurrection of Christ.
Nor are Ethiopian Jews ethnically Jewish. They are religiously Jewish. To use them as an example of what an ethnic Jew might look like is wrong-headed, to put it mildly.
I don’t say this to excuse Hollywood’s long and continued history of poor casting decisions. Johnny Depp playing Tonto is just as ridiculous as Idris Elba playing a Norse god.
Elizabeth Taylor playing a Greek or Charlton Heston playing Moses is about as good as Hollywood could ever be expected to do. Gal Gadot, a Jewish woman playing a Greek Amazonian superhero, is also close enough to right in my book.
I understand that professional SJWs must feign moral outrage when it comes to these things, but I and most sane people simply can’t be bothered to get worked up over such trivial and pedantic nonsense. Especially when the only thing more lacking than good sense in these people is a working understanding of any world history predating the advent of twitter.
That’s not controversial. It’s a fact.
Depends. Are we talking pre-Ryan or after she joined Voyager? I think Voyager and Enterprise are more equal if we factor in Ryan.
Discovery? So dull and unimaginative, it is just kinda “there”.
I would more call it a commonly held opinion. Lots of people weren't wild about Voyager. But some loved it. My thoughts:
Better captain: Voyager.
Better first: Enterprise.
Better engineer: Enterprise.
Better security chief: Voyager.
Better doctor: Enterprise (Phlox rox!)
Better forgotten ensign: Voyager (not by much)
Better eye candy: Enterprise (not by much, they were both hot)
Better break out characters: Voyager (close call though)
Better wardrobe: Enterprise (practical work coveralls vs. pajamas)
Better ship: Toss up (Defiant beats both)
Better premise: Voyager
Better show: ???
Yeah, Harry Kim may not have gotten to do all that much but he did get at least some moments to be the hero. "Timeless(VOY)" alone trumps everything Travis Mayweather did in 98 episodes of ENT. Anthony Montgomery is a really good guy and deserved to be given more to do, at least as much as Garrett Wang got to do. Sadly VOY was more of an ensemble show and ENT tended more often than not to replicate the TOS "Troika" heirarchy of lead characters and give them the most to do.
Cleopatra was not Greek, she was from the Ptolymeic Dynasty of Macedonia, descended from Alexander The Great, who funnily enough was also a Macedonian.
Abandoning characters is a Trek tradition. TOS left Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov in the dust. TNG had limited use for Beverly, Troi, or Geordi. VOY left Chakotay and Harry in the cold, while ENT crapped on Hoshi and Mayweather. DS9 was the exception to the rule, allowing most of its characters ample time in the sun.
I could have accepted Voyager abandoning Harry to the background, but they really needed to make him a lieutenant at some point. And maybe get him a girlfriend, too. One of the Delanie sisters maybe.
I could have accepted Voyager abandoning Harry to the background, but they really needed to make him a lieutenant at some point. And maybe get him a girlfriend, too. One of the Delanie sisters maybe.
Macedonia was on the border of Ancient Greek territory and so the Macedonians were considered more or less Greek by Greeks depending on how convenient it was for specific Greeks at specific times to consider some or all Macedonians Greeks.
Cleopatra was not descended from Alexander the Great, who had one or two children who died without children.
The Ptolemys were of Greek Macedonian ancestry, but two of them married princesses of the selecuid Dynasty, whcih was also greek Macedonia except for some Persosian ancestry.
And it is not known for certain who the mother of Cleopatra VII was and the ancestry of Cleopatra VII on her mother's side is not known.
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