News Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW

[Kirk Prime]

When it comes to the Arrowverse, I kind of assume the heroes all have some kind of an agreement that they'll let each other deal with any threats local to their city, and only come together for world/universe level threats.

Why? Wouldn't it make sense to team up when the threat is serious? And for what it's worth, we have seen global level threats that for some odd reason, didn't have other heroes involved.

It makes sense that for one on one issues, one hero, one villain, there doesn't need to be team ups. It isn't called the never ending battle for no reason.

But on these shows, clearly there were threats that endangered lives where a call to another hero was important. Black Lightning last season is a perfect example of that. If Jefferson called Clark for example, he would have come.

As noted in the Black Lightning threads, the showrunners had their season plotted before that CW-COIE, and its natural development would have been upended by other characters suddenly showing up, particularly characters who would not fit the world Black Lightning established (fantasy framing serious real world issues). In short, Black Lightning was better off and finished its season as its own universe.

That's not an in-universe explanation. The fact that the writers wanted it that way doesn't make it make sense.

 

[JD]

Why? Wouldn't it make sense to team up when the threat is serious? And for what it's worth, we have seen global level threats that for some odd reason, didn't have other heroes involved.

It makes sense that for one on one issues, one hero, one villain, there doesn't need to be team ups. It isn't called the never ending battle for no reason.

But on these shows, clearly there were threats that endangered lives where a call to another hero was important. Black Lightning last season is a perfect example of that. If Jefferson called Clark for example, he would have come.

Pretty much everything that happened last season was centered on Freeland, so that means it was the Pierces' problem. We never saw the Markovians or the ASA in Central, Star or National City.

 

[Christopher]

Pretty much everything that happened last season was centered on Freeland, so that means it was the Pierces' problem. We never saw the Markovians or the ASA in Central, Star or National City.

Yeah, but this was a foreign country literally invading American soil. That's a national concern, not a local one. The whole Justice League should've come to deal with that.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, but this was a foreign country literally invading American soil. That's a national concern, not a local one. The whole Justice League should've come to deal with that.

Is that really their purview?

 

[Christopher]

Is that really their purview?

It should be the US government's, but the ASA was making sure that didn't happen -- keeping Freeland under blackout so the rest of the country was ignorant of what was going on. But Jefferson had the opportunity after Crisis to fill in his fellow Leaguers on what was going on in his hometown, and when things really got bad, he should've been able to punch through a signal to them somehow and call for backup.

This is the frustrating thing about Crisis -- they went ahead and combined the universes, but so far they've barely done anything with it, so what was the point?

 

[Kirk Prime]

Pretty much everything that happened last season was centered on Freeland, so that means it was the Pierces' problem. We never saw the Markovians or the ASA in Central, Star or National City.

An entire city was under siege in the US. Why would the other heroes give Jefferson the finger and say, "your city, your problem." This was about a million people in jeopardy. That would get their attention.

Yeah, but this was a foreign country literally invading American soil. That's a national concern, not a local one. The whole Justice League should've come to deal with that.

As well as the US military. This would never be tolerated. Nor could it be contained so effectively.

It doesn't have to be a national threat to get the JLA's attention. Too many people were threatened.

This is the frustrating thing about Crisis -- they went ahead and combined the universes, but so far they've barely done anything with it, so what was the point?

Exactly. There should be multiple crossovers all the time now. They should be smaller, but they should exist.

 

[JD]

It should be the US government's, but the ASA was making sure that didn't happen -- keeping Freeland under blackout so the rest of the country was ignorant of what was going on. But Jefferson had the opportunity after Crisis to fill in his fellow Leaguers on what was going on in his hometown, and when things really got bad, he should've been able to punch through a signal to them somehow and call for backup.

This is the frustrating thing about Crisis -- they went ahead and combined the universes, but so far they've barely done anything with it, so what was the point?

Yeah, I guess he probably should have.

An entire city was under siege in the US. Why would the other heroes give Jefferson the finger and say, "your city, your problem." This was about a million people in jeopardy. That would get their attention.

They didn't know what was going on since the ASA was keeping everything quite.

As well as the US military. This would never be tolerated. Nor could it be contained so effectively.

I don't remember if it was said explicitly, but I kind of got the impression that they ASA had somehow managed to convince the rest of the government they had things handled.

It doesn't have to be a national threat to get the JLA's attention. Too many people were threatened.

No, but they do have to know about it.

Exactly. There should be multiple crossovers all the time now. They should be smaller, but they should exist.

I actually do agree with you on this point.

 

[Guy Gardener]

A controlled and limited exchange.

Markovia might have been an ally or an important trade partner, and God help us, a nuclear power.

Or here's an idea, genetic supremists in the US government paid Markovia to take the freaks away.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

for an arrow verse example, Paul Blackthorne is 50 but Quentin Lance had to be older or Caity Lotz who's 33 had to be younger Sara as did Katie Cassidy who's also 33.
(did they ever say who of the Lance daughters was older?)

Have none of knocked up a girl when you were 17?

 

[USS Firefly]

Have none of knocked up a girl when you were 17?

No because girls were scary back then

 

[DigificWriter]

Almost none of the Arrowverse's various actors' real-life ages have had any bearing on the ages of the characters they've portrayed.

Having said that, Laurel was the older of the two Lance girls, having been born in November 1985 (Sara was born in December 1987).

 

[The Realist]

Emmanuelle Chriqui Reveals Superman & Lois Is a "Real Departure" from Smallville

"This version of Superman & Lois is really reimagined, so it really is like a family drama with the backdrop of Superman and the whole superhero world,” Emmanuelle told HollywoodLife while discussing the EMA Awards, which airs Aug. 21. “The characters are so grounded and real and nuanced, so Superman, Lois, and Lana Lang are all adults now with children. It is a real departure from when they were younger in Smallville, and I think like anything it will be really about finding the truth of the character in whatever they are going through. That is where I will always definitely start, and good writing informs the rest.”

[...]

Emmanuelle gave an update on Superman & Lois filming. “We are leaving and will travel to Vancouver in mid-September for a potential start date for early October,” she said.

It actually sounds like a real departure from any previous screen version of Superman, as well as from the other Arrowverse shows. I have high hopes for this, and nothing I've heard so far lessens them.

 

[JD]

Yeah, it sounds like this could be a really interesting new take that haven't seen on screen before.

 

[dupersuper]

No because girls were scary back then

Yes...back then...

 

[theenglish]

Yes...back then...

I've been married 18 years and I am still scared...

 

[John Clark]

Yeah, it sounds like this could be a really interesting new take that haven't seen on screen before.

Indeed. I'm going to see it (if/when) it airs here, but I already know that some people are going to complain a lot.

 

[The Realist]

Indeed. I'm going to see it (if/when) it airs here, but I already know that some people are going to complain a lot.

Some have already started. "A family drama? That isn't Superman!" Well, apparently it is now.

 

[USS Firefly]

I've been married 18 years and I am still scared...

The basis for a good marriage

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

That's not an in-universe explanation. The fact that the writers wanted it that way doesn't make it make sense.

The showrunners knew what was best for their series, which was always self-contained with a strong connection to real world sociopolitical issues of a nature and tone completely different that the other series and their characters. There was just no reason to shoehorn those characters in the steady ship that is Black Lightning.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

The basis for a good marriage

Thank god I'm no longer afraid of girls.
It's women that scare the piss out of me now.