Saru’s arc has been him taking a leadership role and learning to trust Burnham again. I think he’ll be captain with Burnham as commander.
Poll Will Burnham become Captain in Season 3?
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I expect Burnham making captain has long been planned as the final arc of the series. I don't expect season 3 to be the final season, so, no, she won't take the chair this season.
She probably will at some point, but her story is more interesting if she doesn't. I think that's something that works well as a parallel to Spock. Spock was never really 'captain' - at least in the sense "Who was the captain of the Enterprise in Star Trek II?" is a good trivia question, if you know what I mean.
I much prefer Saru in command.
My bet, which is based on absolutely nothing save for a gut feeling, is that Saru will captain the Discovery until the final few episodes of the season, at which point Michael will take over for whatever plot-related reason the writers have cooked up. She'll keep the captaincy for the fourth and fifth seasons, after which the show will end -- save for three "TV movie" sequels created in 2026, 2027, and 2029.
I'll try to remember to quote this post periodically as my ridiculously unfounded predictions are proven false one after the other.
I'll try to remember to quote this post periodically as my ridiculously unfounded predictions are proven false one after the other.
Yeah. It would be quite a huge gap between Season 5 (2022 or '23) and TV Movie 1 (2026). Even for Disco.My bet, which is based on absolutely nothing save for a gut feeling, is that Saru will captain the Discovery until the final few episodes of the season, at which point Michael will take over for whatever plot-related reason the writers have cooked up. She'll keep the captaincy for the fourth and fifth seasons, after which the show will end -- save for three "TV movie" sequels created in 2026, 2027, and 2029.
I'll try to remember to quote this post periodically as my ridiculously unfounded predictions are proven false one after the other.
Maybe her arc will be that she realizes she prefers the freedoms of not being a captain, not being stuck on the bridge where the away teams have all the fun. The joys of gallivanting thru space and time in the Red Angel powersuit à la Q and Space Odyssey are reserved for those with few pips.
Yeah. It would be quite a huge gap between Season 5 (2022 or '23) and TV Movie 1 (2026). Even for Disco.
I sort of base that (again, totally wild) guess on TPTB wanting to spruce up the return of that cast as a big event. Plus, it would give those involved a couple of years prior to filming to participate in a greater number of unrelated projects.
How will she effect the Star Trek Universe as a whole? It is a prequel but Leonard Nimoy's Spock never mentioned her in any incarnation of Star Trek (TOS, TAS, TMPs, TNG, JJTrek not even video games) he'd ever been involved.
Well, it's not a prequel in the third season. It takes place in the 32nd Century.
At the end of the second season, in the season finale "Such Sweet Sorrow", Discovery jumps 930 years into The Future with intent that they never return. At the end of the episode, those who remained behind in the 23rd Century, including Spock, recommended that Discovery and the Spore Drive be classified under the penalty of Treason and that they never mention Burnham again.
Classifying Discovery and the Spore Drive are things I can understand and can rationalize in-story. Their decision to make it so Burnham isn't allowed to be mentioned again, that just reeks of trying to satisfy fans who won't like anything Discovery does anyway. It's the one part of the episode I didn't like. I'd have rather had the Spore Drive still be classified but have the Official Record just say Discovery and the crew were MIA and leave it at that.
When they figured out how to explain why Burnham, the Spore Drive, and Discovery were never mentioned in TOS or any of the series that take place afterwards, what they came up with was, to quote a line from Mad Men, "the only [solution] that's equally offensive to all."
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I agree on the alien captain part but Saru is likable enough that I think it fits the character in terms of growth. But, yeah, having an alien captain for the sake of saying "alien captain!" is not sufficient for me. Same with the hyper flagellation over characters not being from Earth. I get that Earth isn't the most desirable place at the moment but writers often write what they know.
This is not an issue for me... BUT I think he won't be permanently in command for another reason.
I feel like if Saru was going to be the permanent Captain, the writers of "Such Sweet Sorrow", which include Michelle Paradise, wouldn't have had Saru say, "There is much to discuss" when Pike was about to make his decision. They tried to build it up as a suspenseful moment. If they were just going to make Saru the Captain, there wouldn't be any need for that. He was the XO, he'd be bumped up to Captain. Simple. But they chose to go the other way and left it as a question.
Burnham arrives in The Future a year ahead of Discovery. She's more familiar with that time than everyone still on Discovery is when they arrive. So that'll give her an edge over the rest of the crew. And she'll probably gain a ton of new experience, thanks to Book.
Hmmm.
Yes, self. Keep that in mind. They wouldn't want to give away something so important in the very first trailer. Especially when so little of the season was actually shot up to that point.
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Totally agree....and so they should!
I won't be up-in-arms if Saru is captain. I like Saru a lot. It just wouldn't be my first choice by a long shot. I like the little sibling rivalry between he and Burnham as peers on the ship.
So I'm seriously the only one hoping for Captain Killy, er, Tilly?
As per my usual “wild speculation” route of late, my mindset here is that this will only happen with any sense of televised permanence if the Starfleet Academy series happens and it’s set during the 32nd century. Two big ifs, especially the latter, but having a more seasoned Tilly in a mentorship role of some sort would be rad.
Depending on the longevity of our current era of new Trek goodness, though, maybe we’ll see her nab that captain’s chair several years from now and a fair few seasons later — likely on another show from Discovery.
Either that or Tilly’s onscreen captaincy happens as a result of some urgent need on another ship at some point in the next couple of seasons, like when Data was briefly the captain of another vessel once TNG and such. That could also be neat. Include her quote to Burnham about intending to be a captain someday in the “Previously on...” segment and make every Tilly fan lean forward on our couches in anticipation.
I got the impression the Federation and Starfleet were in ruins from Season 3 material (just guessing I don't have any inside info). So does it really matter who is captain? This would be like, in the Fallout video games, several NPCs fighting over who gets to be president of the United States when all of America in those games is a deserted wasteland.
I mean, that's literally part of Fallout 3.
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