Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread
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Would be funny if they collected these and made them part of a new trailer …
OMG I love this
"Star Trek: The Newest Series" - Like it, or we'll make fun of you for it.
Potential new forum motto?
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Since I first saw the logo they created for Lower Decks, I wondered what it would look like had they stuck even closer to the Next Generation look and font. So this is what I had to try out. I did one where the font is simply swapped for the original and one that's even closer stylistically to The Next Generation. Seeing it like this makes me think it was a good decision to not use the original font as that doesn't look as quirky and playful. It still think they should have used the Next Generation title font for the “Star Trek” part, but other than that I got a new appreciation for what they ended up with …
Right...because people have never been mocked for liking the newest iterations of Trek...
Seriously? I still get teased for daring to like JJ Abrams' Trek.
US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) would be very interested if CBS was out there floating false numbers as it could affect their stock price.
I've been watching since 1975, I think it is about time they took the starch out of Trek's collective shorts.
I'm guessing Mariner taking farming equipment to the poor locals was also an affront to everything Trek means and stands for?
Anyway, it's more that there's apparently a lot of bureaucracy and such between meeting the species and getting them the farming equipment when it seems like that's something Starfleet would pretty much immediately give them. Didn't they do that for Bajor when they took over DS9? Immediately start sending over equipment and supplies to help Bajor recover?
And then in DS9 when the alien refuges come through the wormhole the Federation starts working on trying to find them a planet to settle on.
But, here, nah, giving some farmers some shovels and hoes apparently requires months of paperwork and handing over simple farming equipment is a violation of numerous rules and regulations. But that kind of portrayal of the Federation sort of fits with how this current crop of creators wants to depict things.
And no, the Federation has not always been portrayed as idealistic and perfect and there's numerous examples through all of the series and movies of them doing things that's in violation to the ideals they supposedly stand for.
I argue there's a difference between them trying to sneak the Baku away from their planet so they can harvest the radiation from it and, apparently, not wanting to give some aliens a shovel.
Hell, Janeway was very much a stickler for Federation rules and shortly after meeting the Kazon she beams them down huge tanks full of water.
Jesus Christ. Don't you know how to throttle back and have just a little bit of fun?
You're only looking at one side of the equation, we know nothing of Galadonian bureaucracy. Starfleet hands over the equipment immediately, still takes the farmers a long time to get the stuff from their government.
No. Deal.
Mariner's problem wasn't with the bureaucracy of the Galadonian government, but with the Federation bureaucracy.
You must lead a sad life then.
Yep, I do.
All I can say is that I'm sorry. Might want to seek some help if you put this much worry into a fictional universe.
Sweet lord, stop getting personal. @BillJ, let's dial back the hostility and refrain from discussing other posters' personal life.
Probably both. Mariner had been on the Cerritos for over a year, yet she was on the Quito when it made first contact with the Galardonians. So it took Starfleet/the Federation over a year to get things in place for "second contact" (which seems to be about providing supplies and communications equipment). Starfleet is probably very slow and methodical with their assistance, as they should be, because if they give equipment to the wrong faction or people, they could disenfranchise an entire segment of Galardonian society and spark a civil war or something. Mariner is our hero, but she may have been foolish to give supplies to supposedly "starving farmers" that she met over a year prior. We don't have all the facts, she doesn't have all the facts (she didn't even know what a spider cow was), Starfleet is interested in gathering the facts. Which can be slow.
Actually, I think Mariner's problems lay closer to home-- namely "Captain Mom".
Apologies, there are two different threads going and elsewhere, and I kinda lost my bearings.
That too, but remember she was demoted on the Quito, presumably outside of her parents' influence. She may only be lasting so long due to the influence of her parents and would've been booted out of the fleet if her father wasn't a four-star admiral and her mother a starship Captain.
I wonder if her name is really Mariner (her father perhaps being Admiral Mariner) or if that's just an alias/name change to get out from her famous parents' shadow. It seems to be a big secret that Captain Freeman and Ensign Mariner are mother and daughter, as Boimler doesn't know after a year, and would likely have looked that up.
Nah he's like Kirk and never looks a personnel files.
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