He was? Was it a small role or was it more than a few scenes. I loved Jarvis in Agent Carter and wish he would have showed up on Shield somehow.
Agents of SHIELD First Time Viewing
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He was? Was it a small role or was it more than a few scenes. I loved Jarvis in Agent Carter and wish he would have showed up on Shield somehow.
Ugh. Season Five was, by far, my least favorite.
I've really enjoyed Season 5... that being said, I'm halfway through the back half of the season, and haven't returned to it since last Fall's television started. Haha.
Not two timelines, just the one and she's experiencing it as a loop...or rather a spiral, but for her it's all happening entirely out of order. Imagine if Sam Beckett started leaping when he was five and only ever leaped into himself, at random points in his lifetime, with no rhyme or reason as to when the next leap happens or how many times he'd leap back to the same point again.
The Sorcerer Supreme doesn't protect the Earth from such material threats, only cosmic level extra-dimensional ones, so it's not like he'd be on the look out for this, much less know when and where it was going to happen. Strange isn't omniscient.
Hypothetically though; if the Earth were to be destroyed his focus would be in preserving and/or relocating the sanctums. Remember those things form a lock or barrier that safeguards the whole universe; in the grand scheme of things one tiny pebble of a planet shaking apart isn't worth risking all of reality over. Remember that in 'Endgame' we see The Ancient One fighting the Chitauri, but she's not out there with the other Avengers trying to close the portal, nor did she work to prevent it opening at all. She's stood on her roof protecting the Sanctum and nothing else.
As for the others that might have survived it: Thor, Hulk and Carol had all been off-world for years at this point. The only other with even a chance would be Wanda and she's yet to fully realise the true extent of her powers.
They're not the Kree Military. They're basically gangsters.
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It just feels like, if there's a threat to all of humanity, it's weird for SHIELD to be the only line of defense when all these superheroes exist.
I assumed the scene where May told Robin to tell her what to do later it was in some later, fixed timeline. So May becomes Robin's mother some time *before* the apocalypse, and she still tells Robin what to do in the future knowing it will keep them on the loop?
Writers seem to love torturing all the characters all the time. O'Brien would look at these guys and feel bad.
I assumed the scene where May told Robin to tell her what to do later it was in some later, fixed timeline. So May becomes Robin's mother some time *before* the apocalypse, and she still tells Robin what to do in the future knowing it will keep them on the loop?
Writers seem to love torturing all the characters all the time. O'Brien would look at these guys and feel bad.
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That's just something that's built in for ANY comic book superhero type story. Even the latest Spider-Man movie addressed it.
Just take it as read that "OK, now let's call the Avengers!" is always a last LAST resort (which Coulson did in season 2), and/or they know they're already busy trying to stop something else from destroying the planet.
Also, right now there are no Avengers...officially. This is post Civil War, so Cap, Nat, Wanda & Sam are all in hiding while Scott and Clint are both under house arrest. Thor is off world, Hulk is MIA, Rhodey is probably still not 100% after his injury and Tony seems to be back to being a part-time semi-non-combatant. Doctor Strange isn't even a known entity and Carol may not have been back to Earth in decades, and only Fury has the means to contact her anyway.
My read on that was May knowingly giving Robin--and by extension her past self--false hope so that she would have something to hold onto and make it through. It's what a parent does.
That went beyond comforting a child though, if there's no way to stop the future from happening, she wasn't just resigned to it, she was actively participating in it.
Oh shit, that's right, I forgot about him.
A few more episodes progress today. Ending in Daisy going off to get Robin.
A few other things to bear in mind. Blue Intendant seemed to decide at the end that he wanted to prevent the Earth's destruction so his father could take an intact planet as opposed to a destroyed husk. Now we know what that probably means, but not if he did anything toward encouraging it (Besides trying to kill them before they could cause it).
Also we have Simmons deciding to directly test the immortality hypothesis. Which is interesting, it's almost a win win situation, they try to do whatever they want with knowledge it will go well, and if they do die it disproves the future.
And in motion, Hale wants to supercharge Daisy's powers which Coulson thinks is what destroys the planet but Ruby also wants to be destroyer of worlds.
Still don't see any clear reason there'd be a chance to change history, but it feels like they could have gotten farther ahead of all this if they'd just compare notes on their knowledge of the future a bit more. I'm not sure Yoyo has told a single person not to save Coulson.
Is Ruby able to move even faster than Yoyo or was it some other trick that managed to score those hits?
A few other things to bear in mind. Blue Intendant seemed to decide at the end that he wanted to prevent the Earth's destruction so his father could take an intact planet as opposed to a destroyed husk. Now we know what that probably means, but not if he did anything toward encouraging it (Besides trying to kill them before they could cause it).
Also we have Simmons deciding to directly test the immortality hypothesis. Which is interesting, it's almost a win win situation, they try to do whatever they want with knowledge it will go well, and if they do die it disproves the future.
And in motion, Hale wants to supercharge Daisy's powers which Coulson thinks is what destroys the planet but Ruby also wants to be destroyer of worlds.
Still don't see any clear reason there'd be a chance to change history, but it feels like they could have gotten farther ahead of all this if they'd just compare notes on their knowledge of the future a bit more. I'm not sure Yoyo has told a single person not to save Coulson.
Is Ruby able to move even faster than Yoyo or was it some other trick that managed to score those hits?
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A lot of this season has things in common with Heroes Season 1.
The vision of the world being destroyed in the future. The prescient who draws pictures. The main character who is destined to be responsible. And of course the Inhuman thing is inherently similar to the show’s premise.
If they intentionally foreshadowed this in the fourth episode, that’s impressive.
Who did Raina drag into the gravitonium? He looks familiar but can’t place him.
The vision of the world being destroyed in the future. The prescient who draws pictures. The main character who is destined to be responsible. And of course the Inhuman thing is inherently similar to the show’s premise.
If they intentionally foreshadowed this in the fourth episode, that’s impressive.
Who did Raina drag into the gravitonium? He looks familiar but can’t place him.
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It's not about "comforting", it's about mentally equipping both Robin and her past self to make it through life. I mean what's the alternative, tell her "we're all doomed, the loop is immutable so may as well lay down and surrender the the unstoppable forces of causality"? That's just shitty parenting. Plus if she's right and the loop can be changed then she can only be working towards that end, not against it, and if she's wrong then at least she's instilled a sense of hope, stability and an anchor point for a mind that has be cast adrift in time.
As we saw in the episode with Robin's dad; foreknowledge alone does not in and of itself mean events can diverge. Indeed it can do the exact opposite. Collapsing wave-functions and all that. We've already seen both future undead Yo-Yo and future Fitz grapple with trying to change the inevitable. See also: indestructible Jemma.
They foreshadowed things in literally the first shot of the first episode of the season.
That's Quinn. The recurring season 1 bad guy that shot Daisy/Skye who was last seen hightailing it away from Garret's craziness in the finale. That whole thing was actually a deleted scene and was going to be one of the stingers, but they dropped it in favour of teasing Daisy's father.
Oh, was that the guy who shot Daisy?
We know the Earth isn't destroyed though, because it's still there in Infinity War and also, our meta knowledge of it being a TV show. So there must be some kind of loophole to the inevitability. Whether it gets saved in a divergent timeline or there's an asterisk to the inevitability.
When I said fourth episode, I meant of the first season, when we first encountered gravitonium. If this was the disaster the doctor was trying to prevent before he got sucked in.
We know the Earth isn't destroyed though, because it's still there in Infinity War and also, our meta knowledge of it being a TV show. So there must be some kind of loophole to the inevitability. Whether it gets saved in a divergent timeline or there's an asterisk to the inevitability.
When I said fourth episode, I meant of the first season, when we first encountered gravitonium. If this was the disaster the doctor was trying to prevent before he got sucked in.
I know, but I'm reticent to get too deep into the topic until you've seen how things get resolved.
Probably not this specifically (they only planned the first two seasons ahead of time) but in a general sense of "this crap could shatter the planet in the wrong hands", I suppose..kinda...a little bit...?
Really speaking it's mostly just one of several essentially abandoned threads from the early seasons that they've repurposed because: "utilise the entirety of the bison!"
I enjoyed season 5, but they really took quite a journey to get from where they started from to the end. There were moments during the middle of the season where it did feel like they were stalling, and there were some characters where I was wondering if they were really needed. I still think they could have stream lined the season better.
So far I like the overall arc of season 5, but I strongly dislike the way they world built the destroyed future. It's about as campy as the DS9 MU, and I keep referring to what's his name (Kosias?) as 'Blue Intendant' for a reason.
It will all make or break depending on how it resolves.
In this episode, General Talbot referred to the Daisy robot as a 'Skinjob'. Totally took that from NuBSG.
Are a bunch of mechanics really trying to YouTube how to do surgery?
Why does Elena think she's invincible? I get Fitz and Simmons, but Elena knows she died and got resurrected repeatedly. How does she know the first death is not now?
It will all make or break depending on how it resolves.
In this episode, General Talbot referred to the Daisy robot as a 'Skinjob'. Totally took that from NuBSG.
Are a bunch of mechanics really trying to YouTube how to do surgery?
Why does Elena think she's invincible? I get Fitz and Simmons, but Elena knows she died and got resurrected repeatedly. How does she know the first death is not now?
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Wait, so Talbot is destroyer of worlds now? He's the most plot widgetty of all the plot widgets.
This sounds like you are past the Ruby/General part of the story. Now that you are I can clear up something I said above, which was I didn't really think Ruby was necessary to the story. She was tolerable as a child actor, but to go from this season where they start in the future and then come back and find out who the destroyer of worlds was, I think the Talbot reveal should have been sooner. Maybe you can include the general as an associate of Talbot and you still have the Hydra background story episode which was pretty good, but Ruby wasn't needed.
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