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Disappointment with S7

I haven't watched it in 10 years or so, but I recall a lot of good stuff in S7. It's a quite zany season. They seem to be over-reaching at times, trying to top what they did before.

I see no controversy in any of Troi's uniforms or outfits, and the standard uniform suited her well.

I especially liked "Phantasms".
 
When I go through and rate it episode-by-episode....I agree that S7 was weak, but nowhere near as bad as S6.
 
When I go through and rate it episode-by-episode....I agree that S7 was weak, but nowhere near as bad as S6.

Given the choice to watch seasons 1 and 2, or seasons 6 and 7, I'd choose 1 and 2 nearly every time. Early TNG at least had some of that purely exploratory, boldly go where no one has gone before, spirit that the original series had. By the end of TNG, much of that was gone.
 
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Given the choice to watch seasons 1 and 2, or seasons 6 and 7, I'd choose 1 and 2 nearly every time. Early TNG at least had some of that purely exploratory, boldly go where no one has gone before, spirit that the original series had. By the end of TNG, much of that was gone.

Totally agreed
 
The last couple of seasons really started to morph into "Team Federation Space Police".
 
There were a lot of misses. I think the weakness was probably mostly from that Piller was, between Deep Space Nine and Voyager, mostly not involved, and Taylor was, aside from being I think not as strong a showrunner as Piller, also dividing her time with development of Voyager. Braga, Menosky, Echevarria and yes Moore too had always been hit-or-miss but with that decreased supervision (as well as Braga and Moore also working on Generations) they had more misses in their ratios in season 7.

In particular, Braga went too far with "Genesis" and Menosky with "Emergence" and "Masks" and with Echevarria's "Firstborn" it really felt like rehashing what we'd already seen before and "Bloodlines" a safe and generic take, going-through-the-motions of a Picard-having-a-son story. It seemed like the writers had become a lot less interested in the characters and kept them in place (a little the case in season 6 but a lot more in 7). But there were also some big gems, I think "Phantasms" and "Parallels" more for the sci-fi aspects and "Attached", "Dark Page", "Preemptive Strike", "The Pegasus" more for the characters, aside from the finale.

What I didn't like is cramming all the "family" episodes in there. Geordi's long-lost mother, Troi's long-lost sister, Data's long-lost mother, Worf's long-lost brother, Picard's long-lost "son." That all would've been fine if they'd spread it out over the course of a few seasons but all squeezed together in one season it became very noticeable as a writing weakness.

Troi's was not-mentioned for pretty good reason and Geordi's for an OK reason, Worf's for an OK reason (though that episode was awful, in part because I usually like Paul Sorvino), with Data that episode really felt like desperation, the whole episode a slow and unbelievable retcon.
 
I agree, "Parallels" was great for the science-fiction, shorty story aspect of it. It's good to know that it wasn't that the show was losing steam, it's that the studio moved their attention elsewhere which took away from TNG. The studio spread themselves too thin.

It's crazy. TOS got cancelled because it wasn't popular enough. TNG was ended because it got too popular.
 
And since TNG was so popular they just had to get TNG to the movie theaters.

Which, sadly, didn't yield great results. Generations was OK, First Contact was good, Insurrection was awful and Nemesis was...ugh.

I wish the money invested in those movies had been used to make more episodes.
 
Makes you kind of wonder what would have happened if they had made another 3 seasons...

I do think that by Season 7 they seemed to be scratching the bottom of the idea barrel with some episodes. Yet at the same time, some good ideas just seemed to get started; they seemed to finally get an idea how to use Troi's character more effectively, Deanna and Worf's relationship, Thomas Riker.

I've read that the show runners said that is they had come up with Thomas Riker sooner, they would have given Will his own command and replaced him with Thomas on board the enterprise. That could have led to an interesting Worf-Troi-Thomas love triangle going forth.

It would also have been interesting to see how that would have influenced DS9 and Voyager. Would we have seen more corssovers between TNG and DS9?
And since the execs wanted Voyager to be "TNG lite" would that have meant the show would have happened later? Or would it instead have been allowed to be more ture to its premise instead (with the Marquis still being a prominent faction onboard Voyagers and all)?
 
One thing that would have likely happened if TNG got 3 more years was an onscreen rrason why Data's emotion chip is fused solid into his brain first, then has the ability to turn it on and off at will, then can be removed.

Given that roughly 2 years happen between each movie, I can actually forgive this emotion chip error, because who knows what the crew has done, seen, or experienced in that time.
 
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Even Nurse Ogawa was pregnant with a baby on the way! I was half expecting to see a confident, suave brother of Barclay at some point.[/QUOTE]

Hell, they made Data's cat's pregnant that season too. It's such a shame they didn't make 27 episodes that year. I can't believe they had to cut the episode where we meet Spot's long lost kitten, whom Lore (reactivated by Brian Brophy) is attempting to capture and coerce. The big reveal in the final act was that Lore wants Spot's spawn to aid him in recruiting Crotus and the remaining borg renegades left over from "Descent Part II." with the master plan of assimilating the crystalline entity and declaring war on the Q continuum.

Oh man, such wasted potential. Instead, we got Sub-Rosa.
 
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It's weird for me to think that season 7 was twenty six years ago and I still haven't seen the episodes!!!! :crazy:
JB
 
Oh man, such wasted potential. Instead, we got Sub-Rosa.
I am glad that we did get "Sub Rosa".

I generally like it when the show did a story that was a crossover into a different genre. I thought Sub Rosa did a decent job in creating a gothic horror vibe. It was fascinating to see Data and Geordi at the graveyard, and when they got spooked by Crusher's grandmother's reanimated corpse. It was so bizarre, but fun, to have that kind of scene in TNG.


"Genesis", another S7 episode, seemed almost like a monster of the week type of episode. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I enjoy watching Picard when he is out of his element. There was no amount of speechifying that would have stopped the Worf monster. I was more than happy to see Picard in action. The Worf monster chasing after Picard was suspenseful and fun to watch.
 
I am glad that we did get "Sub Rosa".

I generally like it when the show did a story that was a crossover into a different genre. I thought Sub Rosa did a decent job in creating a gothic horror vibe. It was fascinating to see Data and Geordi at the graveyard, and when they got spooked by Crusher's grandmother's reanimated corpse. It was so bizarre, but fun, to have that kind of scene in TNG.


"Genesis", another S7 episode, seemed almost like a monster of the week type of episode. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I enjoy watching Picard when he is out of his element. There was no amount of speechifying that would have stopped the Worf monster. I was more than happy to see Picard in action. The Worf monster chasing after Picard was suspenseful and fun to watch.
Quality trolling. Well done sir
 
But as I haven't seen that episode in a long, long time didn't he take the Federation closer towards a new war with the Cardassian Union? :eek:
JB
 
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