^ “starting”?
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Has lost.
I need to start a coin jar for "shame" and "in name only" comments since they mean more that way than in actual conversation.
No.
And wow, talk about pretentious. I find your posts (singular your) exceedingly tiresome. That hardly equates to “anyone who disagrees with me” (unless you think I only read your posts—a highly pretentious notion). True, there are a few other posts not by you that induce intense yawning, but none so consistently as yours.
In the end, it’s not disagreement that induces yawning—it’s tediousness. Your posts offer an endless supply of tedium.
At least so was Civil War, One More Day.
What other superhero films have killed off a supporting character or love interest? A lot of superhero movies have done the cliche of having a character's death be faked or reversed.
Two-Face has always had a cause and often been out for revenge. And again at least tremendously better than Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face or Venom. It was impressive that a film could both have the Joker and do Two-Face as well as it did.
Edit: Superhero movies with more than one villain may benefit from lower expectations but it is hard to do well.
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https://www.joblo.com/movie-news/re...0-min-cut-of-batman-forever-reportedly-exists
YOU get an extended cut, YOU get an extended cut, EVERYONE gets an extended cut!!!
YOU get an extended cut, YOU get an extended cut, EVERYONE gets an extended cut!!!
Well with most of Hollywood currently shut down with no credible end in sight, there is some business sense in exploring re-releases of popular old content. At this point even something with niche appeal will at least make enough profit to keep the lights on.
I wouldn't be shocked if Disney go ahead and greenlight that 4K Star Wars Trilogy Unspecial Edition certain fans have been clamouring for.
I wouldn't be shocked if Disney go ahead and greenlight that 4K Star Wars Trilogy Unspecial Edition certain fans have been clamouring for.
Ugh...but, you are probably right.
https://www.joblo.com/movie-news/re...0-min-cut-of-batman-forever-reportedly-exists
YOU get an extended cut, YOU get an extended cut, EVERYONE gets an extended cut!!!
I'd actually be interested in seeing that version. There were things I liked about Batman Forever, and in some ways I think it was the most successful of the Bat-films of that era in capturing the character of Batman authentically. But a lot about it was just too silly. So I wouldn't mind seeing a version that was weighted more toward serious content.
All I can say is that'd it'd get my money.
It would get a lot of people's money. But, I am continually surprised and yet not surprised at what people would rather than money.
Oh I agree. Batman Forever had what I still think is a pretty good Riddler. Sure, Jim is being Jim a lot, but we also see some quite disturbing things in his demeanor that I feel work quite well for the Riddler. And if the movie had a less funny tone, I think Tommy Lee Jones would have a quite a decent Two-Face for the 90's. And, as the article states, going deeper into the psyche of Bruce's guilt over what happened would be quite nice.
My comment was mostly about, ever since we heard about the Snyder-cut becoming a thing, we here more and more about movies with extended cuts lying around or directors coming with stories on how studios cut into their intended version of the movie. So, basically, that's why I was a bit snarky.
If you've ever read Alan Grant's novelization of "Batman Forever" based on the screenplay, you know that entire subplots were dropped from the theatrical version which would have given the arcs of several characters a lot more depth. I'm all for an extended cut of BF.
Wow, that's the part I disagree with the most. The Riddler isn't the Joker Lite. Jokes make you laugh, riddles challenge you to use your brain. The Riddler should be a cunning, calculating mastermind, not a ranting maniac.
I feel the movie totally wasted an actor of Jones's character on a version of Two-Face that was as shallow and gimmicky as a Batman '66 villain. If the extended cut actually gives Harvey some character depth, that's something I'd definitely like to see.
Oh, yes, I agree. This is not something that should be routine or expected of every movie (and I expect people are going to be very disappointed by the Snyder Cut). There's a reason why editing happens, so it makes no sense to expect the unfinished version to always be better than the finished version. But this is one individual case where it sounds like the alternate cut might be worth seeing.
The extended cut of Batman Forever does sound like it could be interesting, and it would be a nice tribute to Joel Schumacher. I just looked it up on Wikiepdia and was shocked to see Drew Barrymore, Ed Begley Jr., and Rene Auberjoinois were all in it, I completely forgot about them.
Agreed. Best version IMO was John Glover in Batman: The Animated Series. He tried to out-think Batman.
Its circulating around a few sites and YouTube channels. That's why I posted "alleged." I would wholeheartedly welcome Alffleck's return as Batman, but right now, this could be nothing more than rumor to piggyback on recent Cavill news.
Thank you. I've never been a fan of Discount Bernard Herrmann.
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But he's exposed himself as one who will spit on a dead man / squeeze out homophobic "gay agenda" conspiracies and attack anything that was celebrated in a manner the MCU was not. His crap has been picked apart by so many, that he's now tossing anything to the wall as an excuse and hoping it will stick. Clearly, it is not.
Well, yes and no. The character was cool, and Glover was terrific, but the first two Riddler episodes were lame because they tried to tie him into computer games to make him flashier and more modern (also the animation sucked). "Riddler's Reform" was excellent, though.
The Riddler in The Batman wasn't bad either, although he had a weird character design. He was a creepier version played by Robert Englund, but still cool and calculating. Eventually DCAU veteran Stan Berkowitz came onboard the show and gave him an origin story ("Riddler's Revenge") that was more B:TAS-ish (in the sense of having a tragic and sympathetic backstory for his turn to villainy) than his actual B:TAS origin had been.
And of course there's Frank Gorshin, the ur-Riddler. Not as intellectual, but certainly unforgettable (and the template for Mark Hamill's Joker).
When it's something even other Bat-Fans are willing to admit to, it's hardly "spiting on a dead man". And again, the MCU doesn't have any dead actors to exploit.
I though Cory Michael Smith in Gotham had a lot of potential, but he never quite lived up to it. I still don't get why they went with the whole spilt personality thing, I've always thought that felt more like a Two-Face story than a Riddler story.
^ I never thought about him being an amalgam of the characters