Nope
I have a bad feeling the whole DC vs Marvel thing is destined to become politcial.
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The MCU started out strong, but Kevin Feige homogenized the property to the point that the plot of pretty much every movie - with a few exceptions - can be interchanged and nothing matters any more because there's no real stakes.
Nah, they easily surpass whatever Doom Patrol and Titans have to give us. All Doom Patrol did was wackiness and Titans...not much of anything.
Like there's real stakes in DC and FoX-Men?
Still nope. All were enjoyable, but not challenging.
Okay, just to check, since we now have an official DC vs Marvel thread, does that mean we can keep that out of any other thread?
Dream on.
Neither are Titans or Doom Patrol. Or Watchmen.
Agreed. From my view, most of the DCEU were strong, solid and mature superhero films, while Shazam and Suicide Squad were nonsensical, misguided, 50-car pile ups of filmmaking, much like most of the MCU, with the exception of Cap 1 & 2, and Black Panther to a certain degree.
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For adolescent edgelords.
Suicide Squad, maybe. But that's because Ayer isn't a competent filmmaker. Shazam at least wasn't ashamed of itself.
QFT. Highly predictable, Power Rangers-esque blasts-and-noise fests are just that, no matter how many times characters had repeatedly sell the idea of their plots being the biggest, darkest, thing of aaallllll tttiiiiiiiimmmmess! Textbook rinse and repeat cartoons more often than not.
Shazam! was wonderful, unless one reflexively scorns laughter and joy, and equates quality only with self-seriousness.
Superman?
You're describing the DCEU. At least until Shazam got them to pull their heads out of their asses.
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Your "scorns laughter" bit (which you have posted often) is just as sweeping and off the rails as a familiar member accusing certain comic book movies and/or audiences of being "ashamed" of comic book movies. You can like Shazam all you want, but to imply its critics are rejecting "laughter and joy" is you going overboard to defend a film as if it was some hammered-in-stone example of a film generating the emotions you're ascribing to it. Btw, Shazam as a character was not the comic relief goof seen in that film, not in the Fawcett days (he had supporting characters who filled that role, such as Tawky Tawny for one example) or after his acquisition by DC.
Nah, it's not just a Shazam! thing. I've been reading your posts for years, and you can be reliably counted on to sneer at anything light or funny or fun, and to praise things in direct proportion to how po-faced they are.
All it would take is for Trump to tweet once that one is fantastic and one is terrible, and suddenly even mentioning comic book movies will prompt people to say "Can we please not be political?!"
Trump could tweet cats are terrible, and suddenly cat pics will start getting called liberal propaganda.
Trump could tweet cats are terrible, and suddenly cat pics will start getting called liberal propaganda.
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If it's not political yet, it will be before this thread is over. 
Nope. You have been consistent in going overboard with praise for Shazam while accusing any of its critics of "hating joy" as if that film must be all you say it is to the individual, or they "hate" joy in general. That's beyond ridiculous, and yes, its as wildly inaccurate as the oft-repeated "ashamed of comics" accusation from you-know-who..
I find equating Joker to the Right Wing kind of ironic since with it being in the 80s pretty much a lot of the problems there are from Republican policies.