Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Kpnuts]

Eaves' E and its shuttles, Phoenix, Son'a ships, Valdore, Kelvin shuttles, OV-165, Xindi Aquatic and Insectoid ships, Sarajevo, and Nimitz class look just as good as (and some even better than) Probert's D, its shuttles, the D'deridex, and Sternbach's Voyager, its shuttles, Negh'var, Nova, Prometheus, Wells, and Aeon.

The D'Deridex is a classic design. The Valdore is as generic as it gets. Anyone could come up with that design if the brief is "Romulan warbird".

The Xindi Aquatic ship is just a mess, there's no design there. The Insectoid ship is similarly generic.

Nimitz Class (I had to look that up), is ok, probably the only decent Discovery era ship design, but it's heavily inspired by the beautiful Miranda Class.

 

[Tuskin38]

you have an odd opinion on what generic is.

 

[Gonzo]

I didn't have any problems with Starfleet ship design in Discovery or Picard, its just the Klingon ships that looked off in Discovery but they have sorted that with the new D7, hoping they will do the same with the BoP.

Would be great if we get to see shots of the Enterprise and a new D7 together at some point on SNW, harking back (forward) to the days of TOS.

I have always been a fan of the D'Deridex and the Valdore is solid too.

The Nimitz is indeed inspired by the Miranda class.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I would love to have seen Probert's original Aelignne (AKA "Vertibird") Warbird concept in action on-screen, but I understand why they shied away from that idea, and taking TV's aspect ratio into account for the final design.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Riker shows up with a fleet. He tells Oh he'll kick her Tal'Shiar ass in the one of most bad-ass stare-downs in Star Trek history... and then some people went up in a fit of outrage over the ships. As if that mattered more than seeing Riker in all of his glory.

Sure it looks like they xeroxed the fleet, but it's such a short scene that I cut them some slack. I'm sure they'll design more brand-new 25th Century Starfleet ships along the way. Whether it's in Picard or somewhere else. Or at least HD CGI-render some earlier TNG+ ships. No big deal.

I'm with you about 99% here. A little disappointed they had basically one ship class, but the scene, series and overall story were excellent so I'm not too arsed about it.

After all, it is Picard and sorta not Star Trek per se.

 

[DEWLine]

When we get Lower Decks, we'll get to see Starfleet from the inside again.
In either case, it's still Star Trek to me.

 

[Saul]

I grew up with the Enterprise-E, so naturally I'm more predisposed to that visual aesthetic than the original Matt Jeffries Enterprise.

The Enterprise-E was my next door neighbor for a few years. Sometimes we would hangout together. I have fond memories.

 

[Dukhat]

Eaves' E and its shuttles, Phoenix, Son'a ships, Valdore, Kelvin shuttles, OV-165, Xindi Aquatic and Insectoid ships, Sarajevo, and Nimitz class look just as good as (and some even better than) Probert's D, its shuttles, the D'deridex, and Sternbach's Voyager, its shuttles, Negh'var, Nova, Prometheus, Wells, and Aeon.

Yeah, opinions are subjective.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Nobody is right, and nobody is wrong.

Now, let those who don't think the original 1701 looks all that great. Speak up, you will not be thrown in the agony booth. We're better than that.

 

[DEWLine]

I'll bet we can get a proper Haynes-style book out of the Kaplan F17. We just have to not need Haynes' name on the book.

 

[Tuskin38]

Eaves put on his website that he's working on Seasons 2 and 3.

https://www.atomicjohnnyspinups.com/about-me

 

[137th Gebirg]

He really does beautiful work. I just wish his starship concept sketches went more in those kinds of different directions.

 

[Kpnuts]

you have an odd opinion on what generic is.

How is this not generic?

It's literally the top half of a D'Deridex. Eaves' usual ultra dark, ultra metallic, ultra angular, loads of greebles and bumps everywhere... and a generic silhouette.

 

[fireproof78]

Looks sleek and sexy to me.

 

[Tuskin38]

How is this not generic?

It's literally the top half of a D'Deridex. Eaves' usual ultra dark, ultra metallic, ultra angular, loads of greebles and bumps everywhere... and a generic silhouette.

I haven't seen any ships like his outside of Trek. Not generic in my opinion.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Yeah I can’t agree about it being generic. But that’s okay, we all have opinions.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

The D'Deridex is a classic design. The Valdore is as generic as it gets. Anyone could come up with that design if the brief is "Romulan warbird".

The Xindi Aquatic ship is just a mess, there's no design there. The Insectoid ship is similarly generic.

Nimitz Class (I had to look that up), is ok, probably the only decent Discovery era ship design, but it's heavily inspired by the beautiful Miranda Class.

What? It's pretty obvious that eaves based the design of the aquatics ship on oceanic animals like whales and manta rays. Not sure how you can't see that. The insectoid ship is equally unique with its pincer like design. All of the xindi designs barring maybe the arboreal ship, are among the least generic designs in trek because they're evocative of the species they represent. Most of Rick sternbachs designs barring the galor class starship were relatively generic imho

 

[NCC-73515]

The Enterprise-E was my next door neighbor for a few years. Sometimes we would hangout together. I have fond memories.

I had dreams about her!

I would love to have seen Probert's original Aelignne (AKA "Vertibird") Warbird concept in action on-screen, but I understand why they shied away from that idea, and taking TV's aspect ratio into account for the final design.

It's perfect for today's phones

 

[Kpnuts]

It's pretty obvious that eaves based the design of the aquatics ship on oceanic animals like whales and manta rays.

That doesn't mean it's well designed. You can have a grand plan to make it based on oceanic life but end up making it look terrible, and that's what happened.

The man just overdesigns everything, so much superfluous stuff. Like putting his favourite, cutouts, in the STD Enterprise pylons. Why??

 

[Tuskin38]

Like putting his favourite, cutouts, in the STD Enterprise pylons. Why??

He gave a reason why he put those in the DSC Enterprise pylons, they're heat vents.

Also you say favourite, but that's the only Federation design of his that has them.