Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[MakeshiftPython]

I do think for some fans, especially those who hated the Abrams films, it’s assumed that Kurtzman is the mastermind behind all these shows thus he makes an easy target for them. Rich Evans kept bringing him up over and over on RLM as if everything done on DISCO and PIC was all his idea. The thing is that Kurtzman is not only credited as an executive producer on Trek but also multiple shows outside of it because they’re all under his production company. My assumption is that he’s way too busy to have that kind of hand in the shows which is exactly why there have been assigned show runners like Chabon, but you’ll never hear their names brought up by those disgruntled like Rich Evans.

 

[Reanok]

Evan Evagora posted a short twitter video thanking the fans for liking his character Elnor and says he enjoyed working with Patrick Stewart and looked forward to getting back to work someday to begin filming Picard season 2 episodes.

 

[Reanok]

Twitter's Star. Trekcom page has a short video With Marina Sirtis mentions her late husband said she should've opened a restraunt. Evan Evagora mentions if he could visit an alien planet in any star trek series it would be the planet of the gods where Apollo lived. And Anson Mount being excited to have his own Captain Pike Series.

 

[Cyrus]

there are reports of Wesley coming back for the 3rd season. I am not providing links since it seems like a made up story, but they are easy to find. And I doubt if they are doing any planning for 3rd season yet.

 

[Random_Spock]

there are reports of Wesley coming back for the 3rd season. I am not providing links since it seems like a made up story, but they are easy to find. And I doubt if they are doing any planning for 3rd season yet.

Seen that one floating around. First thought that came to my mind is clickbait, since apart from gossip sites, I found no news about it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I only saw that at we got this covered.

 

[Lord Garth]

I only saw that at we got this covered.

And that tells us all we need to know about the "legitimacy".

 

[Nerys Myk]

I’m sure one could find stories about every character/actor coming back with ease.

 

[Random_Spock]

I only saw that at we got this covered.

Same here. Must have been a slow news day.

 

[Lord Garth]

"We have it on good word that the second season of Star Trek: Picard will come out after 2020 but also possibly likely before 2022. Although Covid-19 may play a factor leading up to the second season's possible delay. Nevertheless, we have it on good word that the third season may also be shooting back-to-back with the second season. Work of any kind has yet to commence on the third season, but an inside source confirms that Wil Wheaton is in negotiations to reprise his role. More on this story as it develops. But even if it doesn't develop, that won't stop us from giving even more on the story! Stay tuned.

UPDATE (5/25/20): We have reason to believe the second and third seasons of Picard will in fact tie into Discovery, which now takes place in the 32nd Century! Mercury is heading into Retrograde and astral projections will play an influence in the scripting of Star Trek: Picard's second and third seasons."

 

[Danja]

The action is on TV now:

Simon Pegg: “Maybe TV is a better place for [Star Trek] now. Television has evolved so much. It’s become something which is very much a contemporary, a peer of cinema. It’s simply viewed in a different way. It isn’t a reduced scope anymore. You can still do masses of interesting things, and it can still look modern and not inexpensive. Maybe television is a better format for Star Trek. That’s where it started, you know.”

https://collider.com/new-star-trek-movie-update-simon-pegg/

 

[Nerys Myk]

So Pegg as Scotty on SNW and Picard?

 

[MakeshiftPython]

He's not wrong. I've been saying that Trek ultimately belonged on TV for over a decade. The Kelvin films got as much audiences as a Star Trek film possibly could, which wasn't enough for the kind of big budgets that Paramount gave.

 

[Lord Garth]

He's not wrong. I've been saying that Trek ultimately belonged on TV for over a decade. The Kelvin films got as much audiences as a Star Trek film possibly could, which wasn't enough for the kind of big budgets that Paramount gave.

As the saying goes, "Always leave them wanting more."

If the Kelvin Films stop where they are, then the last film just under-performed. If they come back with a fourth one, after this much time, and it outright flops, people will be wondering "Why did they do that?" I think it's best left as a trilogy at this point.

When they make another Star Trek movie after this (notice I didn't say "if") and if it doesn't perform to whatever the expectations are, they'll just look at that film, not the Abrams Trilogy.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

To an extent all three films underperformed. None of them ever made it past ROI, but because ST09 was the highest grossing film of the franchise of its time, and it was essentially the first installment, Paramount and its investors hoped it was building up to a bigger audiences down the line. Much like how the modestly successful BATMAN BEGINS lead to sequels that broke the billion dollar barrier. STID was an uptick, but not a dramatic leap to where Paramount was hoping. And then BEYOND just severely underperformed.

I would agree that it would only be a matter of time before we get another Trek film because that film brand was one of the few that Paramount had under its banner. However, now with the merger between CBS and Viacom, I wonder how much of a priority a Star Trek film is for them. I think we can all agree that it'll at least not be as expensive as the first three Kelvin films. If they make a Trek film for $50m that grosses over $300m, that's easy money.

 

[Lord Garth]

ROI

I'm guessing this stands for Rogue One?

 

[antinoos]

^ Return of investment

 

[RAMA]

To an extent all three films underperformed. None of them ever made it past ROI, but because ST09 was the highest grossing film of the franchise of its time, and it was essentially the first installment, Paramount and its investors hoped it was building up to a bigger audiences down the line. Much like how the modestly successful BATMAN BEGINS lead to sequels that broke the billion dollar barrier. STID was an uptick, but not a dramatic leap to where Paramount was hoping. And then BEYOND just severely underperformed.

I would agree that it would only be a matter of time before we get another Trek film because that film brand was one of the few that Paramount had under its banner. However, now with the merger between CBS and Viacom, I wonder how much of a priority a Star Trek film is for them. I think we can all agree that it'll at least not be as expensive as the first three Kelvin films. If they make a Trek film for $50m that grosses over $300m, that's easy money.

The Kelvin films rank 1, 2, and 4 in the top 4 tickets sold worldwide in the Trek movie franchise. They made $1.2 billion, more than the first 10 combined. Underperforming? Not compared to other Trek.

RAMA

 

[Lord Garth]

^ Return of investment

This is what I get for not going to B-School...

 

[Gonzo]

The Kelvin films rank 1, 2, and 4 in the top 4 tickets sold worldwide in the Trek movie franchise. They made $1.2 billion, more than the first 10 combined. Underperforming? Not compared to other Trek.

RAMA

Yeah they did pretty well at the box office really, I think Paramount were expecting a billion per film like we have seen with some of the Marvel franchise or Star Wars, that was never really going to happen though, I think it was mostly a case of unrealistic expectations on their part.

All three of the films made money and its not like they were cheap to make either, there is no pleasing some people.

It always seems to boil down to greed, enough is never enough.