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The Multiple Layers of PIC's Opening Scenes

Then you concede that you claimed that an artist has an obligation to provide you with content you wish to see

I know you think you're being clever, and you mistakenly think you're winding me up with your nonsensical arguing, but I'm actually finding this more amusing than anything else. Especially how can you get to the above quote based on this one of mine:

Because Trek is about more than just the parts he's interested in. He has a responsibility to that 50 year legacy.

Lol. Anyway, YOU are the one going on and on about "obligation". YOU are the one making it personal, talking about content "I" want to see.

I'll say it one last time. Trek has been doing starship porn since the beginning, all those flybys, reveal montages, designs etc. Star Trek Picard didn't bother with any of that. I won't lose sleep over it, I won't hate Chabon, but I think he could have respected the legacy of a 50 year franchise and put more effort in, regardless of the fact that he isn't into ships. There's a bigger picture to consider, but he chose to not bother. It's a shame.

And underneath of all this arguing, is your hypocritical stance on a separate issue, which you just refuse to even acknowledge, let alone try and explain, which gives you almost no credibility in any of this.
 
I know you think you're being clever, and you mistakenly think you're winding me up with your nonsensical arguing, but I'm actually finding this more amusing than anything else. Especially how can you get to the above quote based on this one of mine:



Lol. Anyway, YOU are the one going on and on about "obligation". YOU are the one making it personal, talking about content "I" want to see.

I'll say it one last time. Trek has been doing starship porn since the beginning, all those flybys, reveal montages, designs etc. Star Trek Picard didn't bother with any of that. I won't lose sleep over it, I won't hate Chabon, but I think he could have respected the legacy of a 50 year franchise and put more effort in, regardless of the fact that he isn't into ships. There's a bigger picture to consider, but he chose to not bother. It's a shame.

How can you claim in one breath that you're not asserting he has a moral obligation to provide you with starship porn, and then in another breath claim he was not "respecting" Trek's legacy because he didn't do starship porn?

Like at this point I'm just fascinated at your ability to completely contradict yourself without noticing. I can't tell if it's intentional or you're genuinely that thoughtless.
 
You're just trolling at this point. What typically happens when people lose an argument.

You can do a good deed without being obligated to do so. Simple. The end.

"I'm not saying he has an obligation to do the thing, I'm just saying he's a disrespectful asshole if he doesn't!"
 
Okay, I'm not a mod, but I have to say something. I didn't start this thread so I could see a constant back-and-forth between Sci and Kpnuts. We're now at the point of "I know you are but what am I?" If @The Old Mixer told you to knock it off, then please listen to him.

If I wanted to debate all this with Kpnuts, I could've and would've. I let him have his say. I accepted that I don't see eye-to-eye with him and we moved on. @Sci there comes a point where it's time to move on. He said what he said, you said what you said, you're not changing each others' minds, the mods aren't amused, I can't say I blame them, and it's time to let it go.
 
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"I'm not saying he has an obligation to do the thing, I'm just saying he's a disrespectful asshole if he doesn't!"

Your words, not mine. As usual. Resorting to putting words in people's mouth because your argument falls apart otherwise.

Time to move on.
 
Okay, I'm not a mod, but I have to say something. I didn't start this thread so I could see a constant back-and-forth between Sci and Kpnuts. We're now at the point of "I know you are but what am I?" If @The Old Mixer told you to knock it off, then please listen to him.

If I wanted to debate all this with Kpnuts, I could've and would've. I let him have his say. I accepted that I don't see eye-to-eye with him and we moved on. @Sci there comes a point where it's time to move on. He said what he said, you said what you said, you're not changing each others' minds, the mods aren't amused, I can't say I blame them, and it's time to let it go.
I'd tend to agree. @Sci , @Kpnuts , if you must continue this pissing match, take it to a private conversation.
 
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