News Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW

Although I don't think it was until O'Neil's tenure on Batman that the difference started to emerge. In the Golden and Silver Ages, Metropolis and Gotham weren't that different. If anything, judging from the early comics and radio series, late-'30s and early-'40s Metropolis was a worse hotbed of corruption and organized crime than Gotham City, since Batman and Robin began working openly with Commissioner Gordon and the GCPD as respected allies in law enforcement while Superman was still a subversive vigilante on the run from the unreliable police. And otherwise, both cities were portrayed as pretty similar throughout the '40s-'60s, first as gritty, crime-ridden, politically corrupt cities that cried out for two-fisted vigilante justice, and later as bright, cheery fantasy settings where avuncular, wisecracking superheroes dealt with flamboyant robbers and alien visitors and romantic entanglements and absurd transformations. George Reeves's Metropolis on TV recapitulated the evolution of the comics version, starting out noirish and crime-ridden in black-and-white but becoming more bright and fanciful in color, while Adam West's Gotham City was always a happy, bustling urban paradise except when it was threatened by diabolical costumed fiends.

I think the reason Gotham got darker in the Bronze Age is that after the Adam West series, the Batman comics made a deliberate effort to get more serious and gritty as a counterreaction to the show's goofy image, while the Superman comics were under no such pressure to change their tone.

 

Oh, cool.

 

Wolé Parks To Play The Stranger

 

"Parks’ The Stranger is a mysterious visitor hellbent on proving to the world that it no longer needs Superman."

How? By showing them Supergirl reruns?

I assume this is a different character from the Phantom Stranger.

 

If he is the Phantom Stranger.

The child of Superman and Wonder Woman. (Kingdom Come continuity.)

So...

UM...

The CW Wonder Woman is black?

 

Seriously? That's a thing?

 

It was 20 years ago, in Kingdom, the spin off.

No one remembers.

 

Superman & Lois to air Tuesdays after The Flash

 

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It sounds like the next crossover will only include Superman & Lois and Batwoman. I'm glad they're not going to try to go bigger than Crisis, that really seemed like a good place to stop or at least take a break from the massive crossovers with all of the shows.

 

SPOILERS from the leaked pilot script:

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Apparently, this "Stranger" is quickly revealed to be an alternate-Earth Lex Luthor. I assume they're not using Cryer because either (a) they couldn't work out a deal with him, or (b) they consider Cryer's Lex as "belonging" to Supergirl. Parks will have his work cut out for him equaling Cryer's bravura performance, however.

In other news, Inde Navarrette has been cast as Sarah Cushing, the older of Kyle Cushing and Lana Lang-Cushing's two daughters, described as "a whip-smart, supercool wild child with some demons in her past who becomes friends with the Kent boys, Jonathan and Jordan."

Source: https://deadline.com/2020/05/superm...-cw-series-based-on-dc-characters-1202933870/

 

I'd like to see multiple smaller-scale crossovers and guest appearances throughout the season. Or have the shows share supporting characters like the Netflix Marvel shows did. Maybe have Diggle or Felicity show up here and there on every show.

Another interesting angle might be if each show's main villains are connected to each other in some way, all working toward a common goal. And maybe the finales all involve different facets of that goal coming to a head at the same time, so we're basically seeing the heroes dealing with the same climax from different perspectives and in different settings, though maybe with some overlap as they communicate with each other.

 

The crossover is likely happening between Batwoman and S&L specifically due to rhe fact that the Batsuit is weakened by Kryptonite and the fact that Supergirl most likely won't air until next summer since it's been held to "midseason" on account of Melissa's pregnancy.

 

What, does she become friends with babies? I know the Crisis gave Clark and Lois a second kid, but I didn't know it aged them up, that's...odd, and seems like it will be a very obnoxious part of the show.

 

It did.

Well, it's a thing that exists on a show about which we know very little, so naturally you will prejudge it negatively.

 

Give it a chance--fight it--fight the temptation to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

Kids/teens in shows like this suck, period. I don't watch a show about Superman to have time wasted on teenage drama, if I wanted that I'd just watch Smallville (where at least that was hte starting premise). Black Lightning suffers really badly from teen bullshit with the title characters shitty kids, and the upcoming Stargirl is literally just the Muppet Babies version of the JSA.

Is it just too much to ask to have a real live action Superman tv show for the first time since George Reeves hung up the cape (Lois & Clark doesn't count because it was a sitcom with brief superman cameos, and in Smallville Clark is never actually Superman)? It feels like a real bait and switch. They make people think we're getting a Superman show, but its just a shitty teenage drama that will probably just have a minute or two of Superman every so often.

There is no such thing. I can smell bullshit from a mile away, especially when it comes to superhero stuff. I dropped Black Lightning early in season 1 because of his shitty kids, even though I like BL himself. I watched Smallville through its crappy High School years to get to the pretty decent to sometimes really good adult years. I'm done with teens in superhero TV shows, especially when its on CW, which is shitty teen drama central.

Just have fucking Superman doing superman things. Is it that hard to do? For the idiots running the DC CW stuff, the answer to that is apparently "yes". I was really excited to this show, especially since Supergirl is unwatchable at this point, but its just another CW fuck up. I guess the fact that Batwoman is good means the next show had to be shit, because they can't have too many good shows on the CW, it might ruin their reputation.

 

Then you are missing the best CW and the best super-hero show since the Netflix series ended. The young actresses are a highlight of the show and China McLean is a talented up and coming actress.

 

CW has a bad habit of casting really good main leads for shitty shows. For example, I really enjoy Supergirl the character, but her show is rancid. Black Lightning is like that, but worse because he also has no good supporting cast (at least Supergirl has Martian Manhunter) and no good villains (not really the show's fault, since Black Lightning has never really worked as a solo character and so has no notable villains, he's best when he's part of The Outsiders which obviously wouldn't work for a CW show).

Black Lightning, from what I watched, swapped between generic bullshit (I don't want to be a hero, ok I'll be a hero, no I'm quitting heroics again, wait no I'm not), teenage bullshit with the crappy kids, and wanting to be Luke Cage. But LC had a really good villain for about 3/4ths of its run, said what it wanted to say much better (even with a few shitty episodes in the last third like every netflix show), and had a lot less angsty shit.

Black Lightning isn't the worst CW DC show (that's a tie between Legends and Supergirl, and Stargirl would probably take that title if it was actually a CW show and not just being aired by them), but both Legends and Supergirl had good stuff in the past, while BL as a show has never been better then mediocre with a lot of annoying shit.

 

So cancel the show after ten minutes? Because there isn’t much meat to Superman doing Superman things.