What Happened to Picard

[Replica Picard]

He's 40 years old we need someone younger

I just went and checked, and David Birkin who played Picard as a child in "Rascals" is even probably too old at 42ish (born in 1977, not sure of birthday).

 

[NCC-73515]

Did they spend much time sitting around talking about Spock's NEW BODY in STIII? Nope. They gave all of maybe 5 minutes on him relearning EVERYTHING he ever knew. So no I don't think they will spend too much time on the topic in season 2.

One thing that made IV so great was that Spock still had to get his former self back. From him not knowing how he feels to him feeling fine, and acknowledging that his colleagues are his friends.

 

[Batai]

I think the only person in the Star Trek universe who'd legitimately be able to tell the difference and relay it to the audience would be Q, so if we eventually meet him in a later season and he considers Picard to be himself, then I'll treat the matter as definitely settled in a Star Trek context.

Good point. Picard was uniquely interesting to Q. If he isn't still Picard, Q will get bored with him very quickly.

 

[fireproof78]

What happened to Picard?

"You died, Mr. Picard."
"Seemed like the thing to do."

 

[Gonzo]

Picard will need to find a way to square it with himself, its possible we could see Q turn up for that.

There would be no one better for such a task.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

Star Trek: Picard (skinjob)?

 

[Qonundrum]

I was really surprised how well Picard took it. He had his time and was basically robbed of his final dignified moments.

I would be horrified to think that I could be copied/transferred to a new body. I think I wouldn't accept the fact that I was really me anymore and that would change me.

Then again, if you've been through a transporter a few hundred thousand times i guess this is no biggie.

Complete with built-in alarm clock that, when the cuckoo starts chirping, he'll die like an organic anyway. Okey doke... JL knows he's now a virtual cyberman yet he's no different... and all his friends act like he's an organic where nothing's ever happened. Troi would do a facepalm, it's laughably bad. Even the planet of the oiled up people in "Justice" isn't as cringey.

 

[Random_Spock]

Picard will need to find a way to square it with himself, its possible we could see Q turn up for that.

There would be no one better for such a task.

Word. Would get a kick out of seeing Q react to how Picard is now.

 

[Gonzo]

Word. Would get a kick out of seeing Q react to how Picard is now.

Well the Q can observe any point in time so its likely he would have known about these events long before they happened.

He will get a kick out of it though.

 

[Lord Garth]

Word. Would get a kick out of seeing Q react to how Picard is now.

I'd love to see Picard tell Q to fuck off. In those exact words.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I'd love to see Picard tell Q to fuck off. In those exact words.

I noticed that only the new characters have been swearing. Legacy characters from the old days are keeping it clean. Which is ironic considering JL swore in French on the Next Generation more than once.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

Word. Would get a kick out of seeing Q react to how Picard is now.

They really need for Q to appear and give the audience an exasperated eye roll, saying, "Well of course it's you, mon capitane. Who else would you be?"

 

[Lord Garth]

I noticed that only the new characters have been swearing. Legacy characters from the old days are keeping it clean. Which is ironic considering JL swore in French on the Next Generation more than once.

He did say "pissed off" but obviously that's not on the same level. I feel like they're just testing the waters. If Picard ever says "fuck", I'm not posting here without a radiation suit. The mock outrage I usually call people out on wouldn't be so mock anymore.

 

[Random_Spock]

They really need for Q to appear and give the audience an exasperated eye roll, saying, "Well of course it's you, mon capitane. Who else would you be?"

Word. That would be priceless.

He did say "pissed off" but obviously that's not on the same level. I feel like they're just testing the waters. If Picard ever says "fuck", I'm not posting here without a radiation suit. The mock outrage I usually call people out on wouldn't be so mock anymore.

Yep. Same here. I've seen people have whole cows over very few swear words. I'd understand it if it were like Deadwood. If it became like that... I'd probably be...

I noticed that only the new characters have been swearing. Legacy characters from the old days are keeping it clean. Which is ironic considering JL swore in French on the Next Generation more than once.

Yea noticed that. Apart from one damn from Picard and an ass from Riker. There was more swearing in parts on TNG then what we've seen in Picard. Apart from a few stronger swear words.

I'd love to see Picard tell Q to fuck off. In those exact words.

Oh I'd love that.

 

[fireproof78]

They really need for Q to appear and give the audience an exasperated eye roll, saying, "Well of course it's you, mon capitane. Who else would you be?"

Well, that's one way.

 

[johnnybear]

Fascinating that PIC never had one Klingon in it that I could see anyway!!!
JB

 

[NCC-73515]

Fascinating that PIC never had one Klingon in it that I could see anyway!!!
JB

They didn't want the design dilemma

 

[Boris Skrbic]

They had screenc… er, licensed documentary footage, but we’d probably have seen a number of variations from all over the history (minus the literal TOS version), analogous to the great approach taken with the Romulans. If Data was to look like Data, why wouldn’t they try to make Worf look more or less like Worf? No dilemma there, especially given the backpedaling in DSC S2.

 

[Danja]

Complete with built-in alarm clock that, when the cuckoo starts chirping, he'll die like an organic anyway. Okey doke... JL knows he's now a virtual cyberman yet he's no different... and all his friends act like he's an organic where nothing's ever happened.

Picard being an android is the proverbial "elephant in the room". (Everyone knows it's there. They just don't want to talk about it.)

 

[JirinPanthosa]

So, we have the death of Picard. And, his consciousness was put into a synthetic.

The whole thing seemed to go a bit quickly. Here are my thoughts: Picard, the man we all know, is dead. His body remained. But, his remains seemed to just disappear. Wouldn't there be a burial, a ceremony, or something? And, wouldn't it have been a striking image to have the new Picard synth have to face his former self like that?

I do wonder if they are going to even take this on in Season 2. Picard is dead. He is gone. And, are they going to ask: Is the Picard synth really Picard? Does the Picard synth have a soul? I think that these are good questions. And, not only in the sense of this show. But, they are good science-fiction questions, since this is a good, and even unique, circumstance in mainstream science fiction. Plus, I think that it is good "Star Trek" material to talk about this and ask questions about it.

What do you folks think? Thanks!

I think that's the existential question the show has been asking about Data since Measure of a Man. Inside the world of the show, I'd say it is him, it is Picard. If it happened in real life? Who knows? Is our selfness the result of some abstract soul or is it just an illusion created by the total effect of electric impulses moving through neurons?