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The weirdest and worst bit of Star Trek lore?

BillJ said:
It makes zero sense within the universe.
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IIRC their excuse was basically TNG canonically said that Klingons had a whole bunch of redundant organs (including a second spine) so they decided "why not two dicks as well...lol!"

It's interesting they appeared (based upon the urine streams at the end of Season 1) to put them up-and-down, rather than side-to-side as is the case in living animals on earth that have two dicks, like snakes. It must mean that someone in the Discovery writer's room has some odd fetishes.
 
captainkirk said:
This one can be explained, although it's not 100% clear in the movie. When Khan materializes, he's wearing his coat and I believe carrying a bag. So presumably he didn't go directly to Kronos but made several smaller jumps. In fact, the screen in Marcus' office shows a map of Federation and Klingon space with several dots labeled as transwarp network linking all the way from the Neutral Zone into Klingon space. So we can assume Section 31 has a system in place to infiltrate the Klingon Empire.
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In the novel he used several relay satellites.

eschaton said:
IIRC their excuse was basically TNG canonically said that Klingons had a whole bunch of redundant organs (including a second spine) so they decided "why not two dicks as well...lol!"
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Urethral duplication is a thing... google at your own risk
 
Never saw any issue with the transwarp beaming. It's technology Old Spock introduced, which Section 31 confiscated and weaponized, which seemingly perished or was buried with them after Into Darkness. If Discovery jumping to the future and being classified explains why it's never mentioned in previous canon, this is at least on par.
Sakonna said:
Wasn't Gene Roddenberry's original idea for the Ferengi that they would have some sort of much more phallic external sex organ that could twist around their head?

Maybe that design evolved into the energy whips...
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They originally were to have enormous penises. There's even concept art in The Art of Star Trek depicting short Ferengi with much more human ears and an enormous golden armoured codpiece.
 
BillJ said:
It makes zero sense within the universe.
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In what way? An alien species that is "built" differently than humans. Two dicks makes the same amount of sense as pointed ears and blue antenna. To my knowledge Klingon genitals had never been discussed in universe previously. So there nothing to contradict.
 
Nerys Myk said:
In what way? An alien species that is "built" differently than humans. Two dicks makes the same amount of sense as pointed ears and blue antenna. To my knowledge Klingon genitals had never been discussed in universe previously. So there nothing to contradict.
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You would have to imagine female Klingon anatomy developed accordingly, and would likely be needed for reproduction. Yet we have cases of them being able to procreate with humans. I honestly have the same issue with Spock, being created where the two beings have completely different types of blood.

The difference? One was popped on us fifty years after the fact in order to seem edgy.
 
BillJ said:
You would have to imagine female Klingon anatomy developed accordingly, and would likely be needed for reproduction. Yet we have cases of them being able to procreate with humans. I honestly have the same issue with Spock, being created where the two beings have completely different types of blood.

The difference? One was popped on us fifty years after the fact in order to seem edgy.
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Fiction is ever evolving. Making an alien species more alien seems the right thing to do, even to be "edgy". The Klingons look has been evolving since the 60's. There's no reason to stop, now. When it happens is irrelevant.
I would think reproduction would require getting a sperm to an egg. No reason to assume one penis can't do it as well as two. Or that two are required.
RE: Spock and other hybrids. Man, did you pick the wrong franchise. :lol:
 
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Nerys Myk said:
Fiction is ever evolving. Making an alien species more alien seems the right thing to do, even to be "edgy". The Klingons look has been evolving since the 60's. There's no reason to stop, now. When it happens is irrelevant.
I would think reproduction would require getting a sperm to an egg. No reason to assume one penis can't do it as well as one. Or that two are required.
RE: Spock and other hybrids. Man, did you pick the wrong franchise. :lol:
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My point is, they complicated it for no real reason. Just like when Enterprise decided that Vulcans thought humans smelled.
 
BillJ said:
My point is, they complicated it for no real reason. Just like when Enterprise decided that Vulcans thought humans smelled.
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The reason is to make the aliens alien. Not just bumpy humans. And the bumps were added for the same reason. There's no in universe or plot driven reason for bumpy foreheads.
Humans do smell. Vulcans just have more sensitive olfactory organs.
 
BillJ said:
You would have to imagine female Klingon anatomy developed accordingly, and would likely be needed for reproduction. Yet we have cases of them being able to procreate with humans.
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They have also talked about how much extra help human/Klingon reproduction takes. That was a topic of conversation in "The Emissary."

I don't actually think the two dicks thing is a contradiction of previous canon, so much as it retroactively gives a lot of moments a comical extra layer that clearly wasn't the original intent (but also, it all still fits well enough). Mostly related to Worf... as already cited, Worf/Troi, but also things like how early Worf would talk about how he had to suppress his sexual side, because it wasn't safe for the women aboard. Can't watch one of those episodes now without thinking "yeah, because of the two dicks!"

But I also think things like this are the fun part of having a franchise that runs for hundreds and hundreds of hours over decades upon decades of television, so I'm not complaining.
 
My main issue with the revelation Klingon males have two dicks is, what about the females? Do they have two vaginas or one massive vagina that can fit both dicks in simultaneously.

Though I guess whatever the answer is could explain why B'Elanna's father eventually ran away like he did...
 
Sakonna said:
They have also talked about how much extra help human/Klingon reproduction takes. That was a topic of conversation in "The Emissary."

I don't actually think the two dicks thing is a contradiction of previous canon, so much as it retroactively gives a lot of moments a comical extra layer that clearly wasn't the original intent (but also, it all still fits well enough). Mostly related to Worf... as already cited, Worf/Troi, but also things like how early Worf would talk about how he had to suppress his sexual side, because it wasn't safe for the women aboard. Can't watch one of those episodes now without thinking "yeah, because of the two dicks!"

But I also think things like this are the fun part of having a franchise that runs for hundreds and hundreds of hours over decades upon decades of television, so I'm not complaining.
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It just didn’t work for me. It is clearly a mileage may vary type of situation.
 
The Wormhole said:
My main issue with the revelation Klingon males have two dicks is, what about the females? Do they have two vaginas or one massive vagina that can fit both dicks in simultaneously.
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I'd assume the female Klingons have two vaginas and probably two wombs as well. Maybe the two eggs get fertilised with one serving as a back up should the first fetus not develop correctly or at all. It might have been an evolutionary response to a very hostile environment that lead to high infant mortality

In regards to klingon males fertilising other species maybe they don't need both wangs to get the job done.
 
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Mojochi said:
Klingons got the worst of the weird lore IMHO. The forehead thing explanation, the dual organs/genitals thing now, & of course the one we sweep under the rug.... sometimes pink blood
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Hence my crazy fan theory that the Klingons were genetically engineered and uplifted by the Hur'q, or some other technologically advanced race posing as their gods. When the Klingons finally turned against them and killed them, they were left with very malleable DNA and means to work their physique according to their current fashion and whims. This made them also uniquely vulnerable to things like the Augment virus and whatever the Albino used to kill the firstborns of Kor, Koloth and Kang.
 
BillJ said:
You would have to imagine female Klingon anatomy developed accordingly, and would likely be needed for reproduction. Yet we have cases of them being able to procreate with humans. I honestly have the same issue with Spock, being created where the two beings have completely different types of blood.

The difference? One was popped on us fifty years after the fact in order to seem edgy.
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The Klingons are about redundancy. Thus they have two of everything, but only one is required.

Thus compatible with humans.
 
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