Is Jurati evil?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"
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Is Jurati evil?
Nomad "read" Uhura's mind (then wiped it).
Newsweek disagrees with you.
https://www.newsweek.com/star-trek-...-zhad-vash-aia-grief-world-cbs-amazon-1492134
Sutra killed as part of killing trillions
Jurati killed as part of preventing killing trillions
Jurati was programmed to kill.
No free will.
No free will.
Don’t they both think they’re preventing the extinction of their people?
Sutra's working off third hand information and assuming everyone in the chain understood that message at all. She assumed biologics couldn't understand it so why does she believe they'd be able to remember the experience of the Admonition with accuracy?
She thinks her kind is superior in every measurable way to our kind, despite the fact our kind created her. This attitude never ends well for one side or the other, and I don’t think a typical Picard kumbaya moment is going to help things here.
And Jurati killed because she saw “the future,” somehow, without understanding or, apparently, questioning it.
She saw the past. What a pack of immortals did 300 thousand years ago, who are still around, and will repeat if the need arises.
She has an extremely limited worldview. She was practically born yesterday and has never been outside of her home community. She's also one of the few synths that has had the experience of her twin having been killed, which was a traumatic experience that shaped that narrow worldview.
"Evil" is a simplistic label.
Both are working to avoid an extermination of "my kind." That seems natural, self-defense to me.
Evil is more like enjoying hurting and harming for its own sake. The Romulan sister-agent seemed like that, though overall she was trying to avoid her kind getting slaughtered.
Everybody's working off a message they think is full and true, but all (Agnes, Oh, Sutra) might be wrong.
Maybe the message will be to be careful doing what you think is right.
Evil is more like enjoying hurting and harming for its own sake. The Romulan sister-agent seemed like that, though overall she was trying to avoid her kind getting slaughtered.
Everybody's working off a message they think is full and true, but all (Agnes, Oh, Sutra) might be wrong.
Maybe the message will be to be careful doing what you think is right.
Nah he’ll probably ask to look the same.And have James MacAvoy play him?
Yeah, Sutra (and Chabon on IG) said the message is interpreted differently depending on the mind.
Ah, so we’re defending attempt at mass genocide, are we? She’s atleast 10 years old, don’t give her any excuses. She knows what she is doing. Evil is evil.
Fake news! That article was written before this week's episode, which revealed the Admonition in full:
Life begins. The dance of division and replication. Imperfect. Finite. Organic life evolves, yearns for perfection. That yearning leads to synthetic life. But organics perceive this perfection as a threat. When they realize their creations do not age or become sick or die they will seek to destroy them and in so doing, destroy themselves. Beyond the boundaries of time and space, we stand, an alliance of synthetic life. Watching you. Waiting for your signal. Summon us, and we will come. You will have our protection. Your evolution will be their extinction.
I mean, there was the Teacher from "Spock's Brain" that could communicate information for a limited time.
Whenever someone tells me to not even question it I'm going to question it.
Always amused when there is this assumption that Trek is more intellectual and villains are not always "evil" like Star Wars and then there is the immediate, "Nope, their evil!" argument.
Well, in order for their synth-civilization to 'span galaxies', as mentioned, would imply that they are far more advanced than the organic civilizations inhabiting the A/B quadrants. What would be more interesting is how they stack up against 'godlike' entities like the Q, the Metrons, or the Organians.
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