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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Profanities, alcoholism, smoking, drug use, to name just a few. The list is long. Those are 21st century issues, styles, characters, behaviors, and scenarios depicted as the 24th/25th Star Trek. Those hacks are trying to sell us something that is not. They should be candid and say, yes "this is the Jar Jar universe" from the reboot movies. It's another reboot/revision/reimagination of the known Trek universe. That would be fair. But they are fooling the audience.
I really dont mind drinking and smoking it trek it gives it more character and makes it less sanitized
 
And has all been seen before in just about every iteration of Trek from the get-go.
Scotty Drinking
Data and Ambassador St. John Talbot Smoking
Plants that Drug Colonists into a euphoric state ... etc ...
I do have a problem if they over use the F word (I personally cuss casually in the real world but I dont know what teh BBS rules are about) occasionally its fine but overuse of makes it meaningless gives it no punch
 
Nobody logs in as me and posts positive coDANIEL IS THE MOST TRUSTED FRIEND OF CBS AND HAS ALL THE INSIDE INFORMATION. WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE HIM ON OUR PAYROLL.
The Zhat Vash got to you too, apparently.
You're on the honor system, so I'll trust that you didn't slip anything objectionable in there. :p
I read the whole thing. He behaved himself.
 
"Facts" = meaningless Ad Hominem attacks against character to deny that Gene had positive vision for the future he wanted and what Star Trek was.

This is one of the things I hate the most about this forum, this nonsense idea that because Gene and Berman weren't the "perfect humans" they portrayed the future of Star Trek as, that the vision of a positive Star Trek, or Genes vision for a positive future are thus bunk. Seriously how in hell is it relevant that Gene didn't personally live up to his own ideals for what a 23rd century human was? How is it relevant that Berman was a creepy abuser? It's not relevant at all to how Star Trek's future or the vision and DNA of the show was represented.

It's garbage nonsense fallacy that is repeatedly used on this forum to just completely ignore the constant valid critiques of the writing and portrayal of the Federation of these newer shows.

Ok, what exactly is Star Trek's glorious vision of the future?

Racist humans insulting Vulcans with impunity?
Countless colonies on the verge of disaster and people living in fear and chaos?
Pirates and criminal gangs operating everywhere humanity goes?
Sexist starship captains who consider leaving the career to become one of said pirates or see no issue with forcing themselves on women?
Starfleet forcibly transporting people to arranged marriages for political expedience?
Starfleet admirals who'd rather commit murder to provoke war than find peace with Klingons?

Gene Rodenberry didn't even create the Federation, it was Gene Coon who did that and the idea of an aspirational Utopian future driving him is very much revisionism. Revisionism which he encouraged after the fact because it generated a following and made him money whilst he disregarded the extent to which his fame, his "legend", was a result of other people's work.

TOS showed no such future, nor in truth did TNG for that matter, but people have since internalised the urban myth that it did despite all the onscreen evidence. People disregard the dirty, crime ridden, violent setting they see on the screen and parrot this myth of a perfect future and a humanity which has evolved beyond it's primal nature which was simply never there onscreen. That's fine in so far as it goes, but to level it as a criticism against new versions of the show when they fail to live up to this imaginary standard is unfair to say the least, not to mention robbing one's self of the opportunity to judge and enjoy the show with an open mind.
 
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None are mentioned in dialogue but the LCARS display of Raffi's son's vital stats shows that he was born on a stardate in the 51000 range and other stardates in his file fall within the 52000 range.
 
Well friends, I guess it’s time to shut this site down. Seeing as none of us are actually Star Trek fans, I grant the remainder of my time to @Dix to use as he/she pleases.
Yeah, I guess...
Anybody wanna buy Fifty Years of Personal Star Trek Memorabilia?
It'll only take a few days to collect it from all over my house and ship it any where in the world in one of these...
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Maybe Two.
;)
 
Yeah, I guess...
Anybody wanna buy Fifty Years of Personal Star Trek Memorabilia?
It'll only take a few days to collect it from all over my house and ship it any where in the world in one of these...
fkqbOXN.jpg

Maybe Two.
;)
Such a waste...

that's a perfectly good shipping container right there.

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