Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

[Racefuel]

I would've been far more cruel to the horrible women who did that to Icheb.
I would've dissected her to make her suffer the same fate he did and torture her, revive her, then repeatedly torture her till she can revive no more.

But I'm a far more vengeful person that gets revenge for my loved ones.

Well it's also important to remember that when Icheb was killed..in reality 7 was still quite new to being able to experience the broad, intense scope of human emotions. For her entire life she was either a drone or still had Borg technology that was inhibiting her emotions and in a sense artificially keeping her mental health under wraps. That was removed towards the end of Season 7 of Voyager when she started her quasi-romance with ol' ink face.

 

[Hythlodeus]

4. Maybe Manu declined the part given how brief it would have been,

Personally, I hope he was never asked back

but it might have been really great

No. Just, no!

 

[thribs]

Just checked the uk Amazon Prime and the episode is a 12 like all the others. While it was gory it wasn’t overly so.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Well it's also important to remember that when Icheb was killed..in reality 7 was still quite new to being able to experience the broad, intense scope of human emotions. For her entire life she was either a drone or still had Borg technology that was inhibiting her emotions and in a sense artificially keeping her mental health under wraps. That was removed towards the end of Season 7 of Voyager when she started her quasi-romance with ol' ink face.

Her "Maternal" emotions are definitely intact, along with her sense of vengeance and rage.

 

[Racefuel]

The way people are hyperventilating and freaking out about it you'd think the entire episode was set in Event Horizon.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

In the case of Ben Sisko, that was specifically at the request of Avery Brooks.

That's not true. Indeed, Brooks interviewed Chase Masterson for the part of Jake's dabogirl-girlfriend. Even though he picked another actress for the part, he recommended Masterson as a possible love interest for his character.

 

[Danja]

Icheb didn't HAVE a cortical node to give (he gave it to Seven in "Imperfection").

The tech insisted on digging for treasure regardless.

Did Seven at least have the phasers set to stun when she ambushed the two bodyguards and then went on the absurd dual rifle spree against the worst security guards in the galaxy? That'd be something at least.

What if it was YOUR kid? Would you want the person who tortured your kid walking the streets?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Holy shit. This episode was a lot to take in. First: New Icheb (Good choice knowing what we know about the original). Second: New Icheb dies horribly. HORRIBLY. Yikes.

Freecloud is Blade Runner 2049-land.

Voyager brought Seven and Icheb all that way for this? A crapsack world and shitty, miserable lives as hated and hunted XB's? Yikes.

Quark namedrop!

What did they show whats-her-name that was so bad she'd kill Maddox??

Picard was an old man off his meds when negotiating in that Bond villain accent.

Picard got annoyingly preachy for the first time. I love that Seven got her revenge in the end, and her little speech about letting Picard keep his hope was cute.

Also: Renegades is no longer in continuity due to conflicting Ichebs. It's all over, people

 

[Jedi_Master]

I have watched horror movies as a kid as well. But I knew what I was getting into. It wasn't thrown into my face on a family shown and treated as "to be expected" when watching media.

It’s rated M for Mature, with specific additional warnings for
L = Language
V= Violence.

What about that causes you to be surprised when there is violence and language in the show?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Just starting it now so not reading other posts yet.

Not a fan of the decision to kill a great character in between shows just to establish evilness and motivate Seven. Should have learned from Alien 3.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Picard got annoyingly preachy for the first time.

The FIRST time?!?

 

[SolarisOne]

They went to Quark's. Quark's was not fun.

Kira got there first.

"Your beeping Vulcan wife is mind controlling you not to talk to me isn't she???"

She wasn't vulcan.

 

[Yistaan]

Kira got there first.

She wasn't vulcan.

She has a Vulcan name but looks Romulan.

 

[SolarisOne]

But really - if you combine the two - that shit should be rated R, and has no business in a family show.

TV-MA is the television equivalent of an R-rating.

 

[Hythlodeus]

The FIRST time?!?

the first time this episode

 

[F. King Daniel]

The FIRST time?!?

First time in Star Trek: Picard.

 

[Tuskin38]

exactly, Borg implants better themselves

And I don't believe this is the first time this has happened. Wasn't there a voyager episode with someone wanting to buy/sell implants?

 

[thribs]

The way people are hyperventilating and freaking out about it you'd think the entire episode was set in Event Horizon.

Event Horizon is Discovery. Think about it. A starship testing out a new form of space travel goes to a different dimension and gets Jason Issacs killed.

 

[Hythlodeus]

And I don't believe this is the first time this has happened. Wasn't there a voyager episode with someone wanting to buy/sell implants?

maybe. it was Voyager, though, so I can't remember. Was the problem solved by reversing the polarity of the deflector dish, a nebula and Janeway's caffeine addiction?

 

[Hythlodeus]

Event Horizon is Discovery. Think about it. A starship testing out a new form of space travel goes to a different dimension and gets Jason Issacs killed.

Holy shit, I forgot Isaacs was in Event Horizon