Because for better or worse, content creators and copyright owners get to have control over these questions. Not fan interpretations...but those are nothing more than fanfic. People make sweeping pronouncements on here about whatever being in an alternate universe and it isn't. Or at least what they should say is "I want DSC to be in its own universe."
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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Because for better or worse, content creators and copyright owners get to have control over these questions. Not fan interpretations...but those are nothing more than fanfic. People make sweeping pronouncements on here about whatever being in an alternate universe and it isn't. Or at least what they should say is "I want DSC to be in its own universe."
No. They don't get to tell you how you interpret the material you see. That is straight up 1984 shit there.
The next sentence in my post is literally "not fan interpretations..."
Creators get to decide what is and isn't in their universe and how it's organized.
They don't get to tell fans how to interpret the material they see and read. That is pretty much my stance whether it be "Star Trek" or some no-name Netflix crapfest. Once they put it out there, it is up to fans what it means to them.
what it means to fans is one thing. but the facts of the story they're trying to tell, not so much. nobody walked out of the movie 1917 and said, "yeah but it was really more of a world war II movie, so it was set in 1944 and the director has no right to tell me otherwise".
But fans cannot stick their fingers in their ears like a toddler and say "la la la this thing I don't like isn't in the prime universe because I said so".
"Interpretations" are a different thing. Creators can't determine how we interpret the theme of episodes, the symbolism, the drama, character's motivations, etc. But they CAN tell us how the universe/continuity is meant to be organized, even if their decisions are bad. They own the property.
They can tell us what their intent was. That doesn't mean that intent is going to carry over or make any sense to people watching. I'm not telling anyone to follow me, I've simply point out how I see the universe.
If some fans can't handle the idea that some folks don't see it as one consistent whole, to the point they have to shout down anyone in disagreement. Then their faith in the statements from TPTB aren't all that strong to begin with. They are desperately trying to hang on to something they can't even see.
Good for them?
At this point, there’s no clear design aesthetic for any particular time period because of all the prequels/retcons/etc. that were produced after the fact. If they used a ship that looked like the Sovereign class in DSC, or if they used ships that looked like the Magee and Zimmerman classes in PIC (wink, wink), I wouldn’t be at all surprised. The days of Probert, Sternbach, Okuda, etc. are unfortunately over.
There is a lot to criticize as the Berman years would down, but the behind-the-scenes folks had their shit together until the very end.
"Not my job, man".
Why do they need to keep saying it over and over? Could it be because not everyone is convinced based on what they are seeing on screen?
I understand the business end of it, "canon" sells now. So anything new is being attached to what came before, rather or not it is remotely like it.
I still hope that Discovery will erase itself from the timeline once the series ends. And even if it doesn't, in my headcanon it definitely will.
As for the DiscoPrise in Picard, I consider that a simple continuity error. Just like Geordies uniform at the end of "Yesterday's Enterpise".
As for the DiscoPrise in Picard, I consider that a simple continuity error. Just like Geordies uniform at the end of "Yesterday's Enterpise".
It doesn't need to erase itself, I just consider it part of the vast Trek multiverse.
I don't think it works that way.
I don't think it works that way.
It does for me. I do the same with Enterprise, which I consider to be an alternate timeline due to the events in First Contact.
I just watch the show...
That’s a different thing than wishing Disco is erased. That’s called head canon.
Well, they erased in actual canon. It never existed...
I'll admit they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the new uniforms, bald Klingons, bridge windows, etc, but I still see it as one big happy continuity, in broad strokes. I think we've had this discussion before though.
