News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman
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Agreed. That's the reason Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the greatest MCU film by far. Not even a contest, as the fantastic elements (Insight / super-soldiers) are contained in the grit and brutality of espionage, political arguments that have roots in the real world (security vs freedom, and who makes that decision / preemptive assassinations, etc.), and mature drama, instead of a 2.5 hour reel of cartoonish noise.
Eh, it's up there but it's not the greatest.
Yes yes yes, we all know how ashamed you are of comics.
Honestly I think they took Captain's powers to sightly over the top levels even in this one. Some of the action scenes should have been toned down to let us focus on the story. A friend of mine had the story completely drowned out by them, and claimed the movie is no different from gi Joe.
Unnecessary.
That member still on that nonsensical crap, which tries to link the worst of childish comics (his preference) with the best of the medium--a failed tactic he also uses for the junk-noise end of the MCU, which he feels he has to defend. If anyone has to defend anything to that degree, they are admitting the subject is as flawed/terrible as others observe.
The worst of comics was the 90s grim and gritty stuff that tried too hard for realism, actually.
Nah, it's just fun poking at the pretentious.
Trying too hard usually results in poor output. Doesn't make realism unacceptable or even ashamed of comics. Comics are a multi-style format and can welcome many elements.
Yeah, that one probably did do the best job of balancing the grounded stuff with the more fantastic stuff.
Honestly thinking back over the stuff I have and haven't enjoyed, I think I've actually been a way to harsh on the more grounded stuff.
I loved the Nolan Batman movies, the Netflix Marvel shows, and Arrow, all of which were some of the most grounded parts of the franchises. I'm starting to realize that all I really need is a good story and good characters, whether they are fully earthbound with no or minimal superpowers, or flying through space shooting beams of light out of their hands.
And I really don't see the people making the more grounded stuff as being ashamed of comics, it's simply that they have chosen to emphasize different elements of those comics. Even though they directed The Winter Soldier, it's pretty clear from Infinity War and Endgame that the Russo Bros. are definitely not ashamed of comics.
Sure comics can welcome many elements, but when you get folks so immersed in "realism" that they'd probably make the Guardians of the Galaxy into a delusional Biker Gang on Earth who think they're aliens (or worse, are just a biker gang with alien names despite being human) then you know there's a problem.
No, I don't know there "is a problem." The whole point of comics is to explore different ideas in different ways. So, some people prefer more realism, some a mix of the two, and some more fantastical. There is no correct way to do a comic, beyond what entertains the audience. That is why comics are constantly rebooting, retooling and trying different characters. That's why the history of different characters is so varied.
It has nothing to do with being "ashamed" of comics (whatever that means) and everything to do with personal preference. So, perhaps, just maybe, there can be acceptance among comic book fans for liking different things.
Exactly. Shame shouldn't be entering this equation and feels like such a snobbish way to talk when this format invites such variety.
Yawn.
I could easily see that being the premise behind a What If?/alternate universe story.
In the films Keaton looked tall and, while not with Christian Bale-like good looks, not balding.
There's nothing wrong with a city and its sets openly being fantastical, retro or otherwise otherworldly rather than just a real every-city, being stylized that doesn't make it silly.
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Yeah, Keaton never struck me as a poor fit as Bruce Wayne.
He was balding--a condition Keaton was suffering even before his Night Shift period. That's not even getting into hs completely lack of an athletic body--the opposite of Wayne and Batman.
Looking like a garish model--even in the sets the actors inhabited--made for a terrible Gotham. There was no contrast to make the fantastical elements stand out, because the entire world was so artificial.
Exactly.
Bruce Wayne shouldn't look like a guy who'd easily be Batman, that's the point.
So like the comics, then.
This single statement proves you have never read a Batman comic. Ever.
A short, balding comedic actor cast because of Burton's hang-ups about a "square jawed hero" (his words) is not how Bruce Wayne or Batman was developed.
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