Series 13 not shooting until September

[StCoop]

So, yeah, an 18 month gap between series. It really is beyond a joke how incapable the BBC are of making the show on any sort of timely schedule.

https://cultbox.co.uk/news/doctor-who-series-13-filming-begins-in-september

 

[The Nth Doctor]

So, yeah, an 18 month gap between series. It really is beyond a joke how incapable the BBC are of making the show on any sort of timely schedule.

https://cultbox.co.uk/news/doctor-who-series-13-filming-begins-in-september

Clearly you've never regularly watched other British shows.

You're tired of the BBC's "slackness"?

I'm even more tired of fan entitlement.

 

[diankra]

Clearly you've never regularly watched other British shows. .

You mean like Call the Midwife, Silent Witness, Death in Paradise...?

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Call me entitled, then, cause I find this a horrible thing to happen, and I'm annoyed and dissapointed. But I'm not surprised.

But seriously, 20 episodes of Doctor in almost 4 years. Well done.

 

[Timby]

It's not like the BBC has been eating considerable funding cuts over the last few years, no sir...

 

[StCoop]

It's not like the BBC has been eating considerable funding cuts over the last few years, no sir...

And so they make less of one of their best selling series.

Spare me the brown-nosing excuses.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Call me entitled, then, cause I find this a horrible thing to happen, and I'm annoyed and dissapointed. But I'm not surprised.

But seriously, 20 episodes of Doctor in almost 4 years. Well done.

Well, I have on more than one occasion for precisely this reason...

You mean like Call the Midwife, Silent Witness, Death in Paradise...?

Sherlock, Last Tango in Halifax, Luther...

Or looking further back, Agatha Christie's Poirot, Prime Suspect, Absolutely Fabulous...

 

[Evil Robert]

Well, I have on more than one occasion for precisely this reason...


Sherlock, Last Tango in Halifax, Luther...

Or looking further back, Agatha Christie's Poirot, Prime Suspect, Absolutely Fabulous...

I really don't want to add fuel to other people's fires here (as you do have a point), but I just need to add some opinions to some of the examples you gave. .

Its kinda apples and oranges with a few of those examples. British TV shows will often reappear years after the last series wrapped up (after a consistantly timed run of series).

Consider the orginal AbFab's first 3 series were 1992-1995 (with fairly consistant timeframes between airings- all 3 series where shown around the winter block) before being wrapped up with no plans for more after the Telemovie in 1996. Jennifer Saunders just ended up being struck with the inspiration bug after the MirrorBall pilot to produce series 4 & 5 some 6 years later. This is more akin to the 15 years between Doctor Who then the 2 years between series of Who we're getting now.

Prime Suspect was regular and consistent in production from 1991-5 until Helen Mirren quit and it took 7 years to woo her back. This one is more so working around a famous lead. I'd put Sherlock and Luther there. Both those series got more inconsistent as their leads fame started to skyrocket.

Yes Doctor Who does have some complications when actors want to commit to other projects, but not to the level of when a series is built around one person like Helen Mirren, Benedict Cumberbach or Idris Elba when they started to make a name for themselves on both sides of the pond (not to mention regenerating has always been that get-out-of-jail-free card)

The Poirot was still 13 series over 14 years. Still pretty good. And they're number of episodes dropped towards the end as they had the issue of only having so much source material to adapt (same thing happened with Joan Hickson's Mrs Marple - thus why it ended with four Christmas specials over four years)

Certainly Who has its own unique set of conditions (Often relating to costs on what is a niche show) but we are now getting less over a longer period of time now, with little explanation as to why (its not like Jodie is filming a new series of Broadchurch in the off time) and the show doesn't have the issues a lot of the other shows mentioned have (sole writers for the entire series, working around stars movie careers, limited source material)

 

[diankra]

Well, I have on more than one occasion for precisely this reason...


Sherlock, Last Tango in Halifax, Luther...

Or looking further back, Agatha Christie's Poirot, Prime Suspect, Absolutely Fabulous...

Most of which ran annually in their original runs, only the revivals were more intermittent. A bit like if Who had ended around 2010, returning when RTD and Tennant were available for a special or an occasional one-off run.

 

[diankra]

I really don't want to add fuel to other people's fires here (as you do have a point), but I just need to add some opinions to some of the examples you gave. .

Its kinda apples and oranges with a few of those examples. British TV shows will often reappear years after the last series wrapped up (after a consistantly timed run of series).

Consider the orginal AbFab's first 3 series were 1992-1995 (with fairly consistant timeframes between airings- all 3 series where shown around the winter block) before being wrapped up with no plans for more after the Telemovie in 1996. Jennifer Saunders just ended up being struck with the inspiration bug after the MirrorBall pilot to produce series 4 & 5 some 6 years later. This is more akin to the 15 years between Doctor Who then the 2 years between series of Who we're getting now.

Prime Suspect was regular and consistent in production from 1991-5 until Helen Mirren quit and it took 7 years to woo her back. This one is more so working around a famous lead. I'd put Sherlock and Luther there. Both those series got more inconsistent as their leads fame started to skyrocket.

Yes Doctor Who does have some complications when actors want to commit to other projects, but not to the level of when a series is built around one person like Helen Mirren, Benedict Cumberbach or Idris Elba when they started to make a name for themselves on both sides of the pond (not to mention regenerating has always been that get-out-of-jail-free card)

The Poirot was still 13 series over 14 years. Still pretty good. And they're number of episodes dropped towards the end as they had the issue of only having so much source material to adapt (same thing happened with Joan Hickson's Mrs Marple - thus why it ended with four Christmas specials over four years)

Certainly Who has its own unique set of conditions (Often relating to costs on what is a niche show) but we are now getting less over a longer period of time now, with little explanation as to why (its not like Jodie is filming a new series of Broadchurch in the off time) and the show doesn't have the issues a lot of the other shows mentioned have (sole writers for the entire series, working around stars movie careers, limited source material)

And Ab Fab happened in the first place because the BBC had booked in an annual run of French and Saunders before DF took adoption leave, leaving JS to develop a solo project to fill in.

 

[The Wormhole]

So, this should mean a premiere in Fall 2021? Well, that's more or less in-line with what many of us were speculating for the past year anyway, so I don't see any reason to get worked up or upset or anything. If anything, this is one of the first things with the Doctor Who franchise in years that has gone exactly as expected. An eighteen month gap may suck, but there will at least be a Christmas special this year to soften the blow somewhat.

I'm cool as a cucumber over this.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Chibnall claimed he had a five-year plan. If these delays were baked into that from the get-go, then we've only got one more season of him (and almost certainly Jodie) left.

Then back into the wilderness.

 

[The Wormhole]

Chibnall claimed he had a five-year plan. If these delays were baked into that from the get-go, then we've only got one more season of him (and almost certainly Jodie) left.

Then back into the wilderness.

IIRC, one of the co-production deals basically ensures the show until a season 15. So even if season 13 is Whittaker's final season (which is likely) we're guaranteed at least two seasons with another Doctor, and if these gaps continue, we're guaranteed Doctor Who until the end of 2024.

 

[Saul]

Just ask netflix for the money and let them co-produce. The show is frankly bigger than the BBC and it's budget at this stage.

 

[bigdaddy]

^Netflix would cancel it before anyone had a chance to know it was released.

It's also taken them YEARS two release two seasons of Lost in Space.

Clearly you've never regularly watched other British shows.

You're tired of the BBC's "slackness"?

I'm even more tired of fan entitlement.

Whatever do you mean? Red Dwarf has 75 episodes over 30+ years. They don't take 18 months to make new episodes, not at all.

However you also can't be the BBC bitching that Doctor Who ratings, and more so merchandise, isn't selling when you have such gaps between seasons.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Totally normal for an Olympic year, though theyve often disguised it more with split seasons. Doubtless the usual vocalists will claim it's evidence of Jodie or Chibnall's failure, rather than the norm since 2008. It also proably gives Gill and Coles time to film their US shows.

 

[Starkers]

You mean like Call the Midwife, Silent Witness, Death in Paradise...?

Don't they all have relatively fixed locations/sets? Not sure any of them would have the post production effects work Who has either. I'm not wholly disagreeing because they do all come back year in year out, but I imagine Who is a much harder beast to make.

Increasingly it looks like RTD was some kind of superhuman and I'm amazed he didn't kill himself through overwork (though another thought, outside of Planet of the Dead how often did Who film abroad in those days?)

It is annoying though, especially just as Jodie is growing into the role. She needs momentum. Good job they've already filmed the Christmas/NY special at least!

 

[The Doctor]

Meh. Gaps happen, especially with short seasons.

No sense getting all twisted about it.

 

[diankra]

Don't they all have relatively fixed locations/sets? Not sure any of them would have the post production effects work Who has either. I'm not wholly disagreeing because they do all come back year in year out, but I imagine Who is a much harder beast to make.

Increasingly it looks like RTD was some kind of superhuman and I'm amazed he didn't kill himself through overwork (though another thought, outside of Planet of the Dead how often did Who film abroad in those days?)

It is annoying though, especially just as Jodie is growing into the role. She needs momentum. Good job they've already filmed the Christmas/NY special at least!

Well, Midwife has to spend on the period setting, but yes, they have base sets and ensembles.

 

[Marc]

Well, Midwife has to spend on the period setting, but yes, they have base sets and ensembles.

And don't shoot outside the U.K (for example the current season of Doctor Who spent a chunk of time filming in South Africa).