That news interview scene

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Powerful acting is BETTER than any special effect. That's why TNG worked.. the best scenes were just Picard talking in an office. I just wanted the news interview scene from Star Trek Picard. I think it's one of the best scenes I've EVER seen Stewart do.

I was worried that in recent months that Stewart wasn't going to be Picard. Still a legend in acting, he has been talking slower, and just differently, and to me the Picard I grew up with was one that could talk with fierce morality or whatnot.

I needn't have worried. I remember reading what Peter Jackson said when he made Fellowship of the Ring. He was talking about one difficult shot early on when Frodo takes Gandalf's hat and cane from him and puts them on the rack.. a VERY difficult shot because they were not actually in the same room together (because of scale of the characters). In later scene, simpler tricks like forced perspective were used to create the scale illusion. but Jackson felt that doing a tricky complex shot doesn't advertise itself as such a shot, early on the film would sell the audience on the illusion, and they wouldn't think about the scale at all afterwards. Same here.. this early scene sold me on the fact that this was not just an older, slower, Patrick Stewart, but that this was Picard.. REALLY was Picard. It's a fantastic bit of acting, that is the best single scene I've seen from Trek in years. (I loved Beyond but that's besides the point). And the fact that the rest of the episode didn't reach this peak did not matter, as I was sold on this being an older Picard early on.

 

[DEWLine]

Agreed.

In addition: Merrin Dungay's performance as reporter Richter Kalungay was necessary to get us to that reveal, and she did her own part in the interview scene equally well.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Agreed.

In addition: Merrin Dungay's performance as reporter Richter Kalungay was necessary to get us to that reveal, and she did her own part in the interview scene equally well.

Absolutely. I take take nothing away from her.. she was very believable and perfectly cast as the reporter. But it's also the direction, the camera movements, the framing of each shot, and the throbbing soundtrack subtly laid in the background. I literally am in tears after the scene is over

 

[Doctor Tiki]

By the way: Richter is the German noun for judge (title, occupation, role).

 

[NCC-73515]

And Musiker is musician XD

 

[thribs]

Still think Dunkirk is a weird comparison. They used the ships they had. They didn't spend years building new ones.

 

[NCC-73515]

They were evacuating with existing ships before the new fleet was done

 

[thribs]

They were evacuating with existing ships before the new fleet was done

The new fleet shouldn't be necessary. They had over a year.
This whole evacuation story is very poorly done.

 

[XCV330]

The new fleet shouldn't be necessary. They had over a year.
This whole evacuation story is very poorly done.

Your expertise in planetary evacuations was sorely overlooked by Michael Chabon and the other writers. They need merely have opened their eyes to the beacon of positivity you radiate and would have known up-front to consult you.

 

[Lorcan Kelly]

Loved this scene. It was Picard in every sense of the word. Great acting by all parties.

 

[Lord Garth]

The scene really showed how Picard really hadn't done very many interviews. That newswoman was looking for an angle and she nailed him with that soundbite she got out of him. "Because it was no longer Starfleet!" was exactly the type of thing she was hoping he'd say and he said it so angrily. If it bleeds, it leads. And she hit the jackpot.

They took advantage of his inexperience with live interviews in front of the camera; and Picard took the bait hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Mudd]

I liked the scene, but...

It's rather typical of Trek to look askance at youth this way. Old white codger angrily lecturing and dismissing younger POC for her ignorance.

You look around at our media landscape for the last sixty years or so, and what you see the most of are unctuous, middle-aged or old men reading copy they don't understand and pompously holding forth* with authoritative airs. They couldn't have set Picard up against that kind of a guy, one of the "Ted Baxters" of the broadcast world?

Nope, apparently not.


*Do I note the irony here? Yes I do.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I liked the scene, but...

It's rather typical of Trek to look askance at youth this way. Old white codger angrily lecturing and dismissing younger POC for her ignorance.

You look around at our media landscape for the last sixty years or so, and what you see the most of are unctuous, middle-aged or old men reading copy they don't understand and pompously holding forth* with authoritative airs. They couldn't have set Picard up against that kind of a guy, one of the "Ted Baxters" of the broadcast world?

Nope, apparently not.


*Do I note the irony here? Yes I do.

Callously dismissing Romulan life as less than Federation life is a POC deserving of dismissal.

I think it had to be someone young because an older person who lived through the Borg threat would defer to Picard more.

 

[ISS Enterprise]

The new fleet shouldn't be necessary. They had over a year.
This whole evacuation story is very poorly done.

Agree, I know they have a year. But it's called Star FLEET meaning they had a fleet already to use. Skeleton crews on Galaxy class or large ships to get evacation started

I honestly didn't like the interview scene, can see that crap on pick a news network on either side. You can help your enemy in a time of need n lead to potential peace, see Uss Enterprise C

Episode 2 was a snoozer, literally as I dozed off cpl times lol

Episode 1 was solid, IMO

 

[seigezunt]

I love the acting turn where she had to be someone who didn't get the historical reference, pretending that she did.

 

[Noname Given]

Still think Dunkirk is a weird comparison. They used the ships they had. They didn't spend years building new ones.

Dunkirk was a BAD analogy for this for MANY reasons - it DIDN'T fit:

- It was during a shooting war.

- The British tried to assist the French in stopping the German advance into French territory due to a treaty that existed.

- The British military leadership didn't have enough naval vessels in the area available to evacuate everyone, so they put pout a call for civilian craft to go into the warzone area and assist in whatever way they could to evacuate the British troops.
^^^
How Picard equates that with the Romulan Evacuation Fleet he wanted is just as:

- There was no 'War situation here

- There is NO treaty of any kind between the Romulan Empire and the Federation promising aid or relief assistance (War or no)

- Picard wasn't trying to get a group of existing Civilian ships to go out and assist in the Romulan evacuation; he had gotten Star Fleet to allow is primary military shipyard construction facility to build military type transports from scratch to do the job (Requiring A LOT of Federation labor and probably resources from other Federation worlds - and probably the cessation of ANY other type of meaningful Front Line Star Fleet ship construction until the Transport construction was completed.)

So yeah, how Picard came up with equating "Dunkirk" as a proper historical allegory for his rescue project is beyond me.

 

[Vger23]

I agree with the sentiment expressed in this thread.

My favorite scene in First Contact, a film filled with set pieces and visual candy, is the confrontation between Lily and Picard in the observation room. That's how much I appreciate scenes like this one.

So yeah, how Picard came up with equating "Dunkirk" as a proper historical allegory for his rescue project is beyond me.

It was supposed to be a bad analogy. He threw it out there, hoping the reporter would bite, so he could use her nod of approval against her later to show that she has no appreciation for history, because she didn't catch that it was a poor comparison.

It was bait. He was playing chess.

 

[Crewman6]

So yeah, how Picard came up with equating "Dunkirk" as a proper historical allegory for his rescue project is beyond me.

Lots of ships rescuing lots of trapped people.

Don't overthink it.

 

[ITDUDE]

Dunkirk was a BAD analogy for this for MANY reasons - it DIDN'T fit:

- It was during a shooting war.

- The British tried to assist the French in stopping the German advance into French territory due to a treaty that existed.

- The British military leadership didn't have enough naval vessels in the area available to evacuate everyone, so they put pout a call for civilian craft to go into the warzone area and assist in whatever way they could to evacuate the British troops.
^^^
How Picard equates that with the Romulan Evacuation Fleet he wanted is just as:

- There was no 'War situation here

- There is NO treaty of any kind between the Romulan Empire and the Federation promising aid or relief assistance (War or no)

- Picard wasn't trying to get a group of existing Civilian ships to go out and assist in the Romulan evacuation; he had gotten Star Fleet to allow is primary military shipyard construction facility to build military type transports from scratch to do the job (Requiring A LOT of Federation labor and probably resources from other Federation worlds - and probably the cessation of ANY other type of meaningful Front Line Star Fleet ship construction until the Transport construction was completed.)

So yeah, how Picard came up with equating "Dunkirk" as a proper historical allegory for his rescue project is beyond me.

It wasn't supposed to be a perfect fit. She brought up the Pyramids as amount of effort for any given project. Picard countered, that Pyramids are not a good examples because they were done as a vanity projects by the Pharaoh. He gave an example of Dunkirk as an example of mass evacuation of a mass of people on short notice. It's not a perfect comparison but much better than the Pyramids.

 

[Noname Given]

It wasn't supposed to be a perfect fit. She brought up the Pyramids as amount of effort for any given project. Picard countered, that Pyramids are not a good examples because they were done as a vanity projects by the Pharaoh. He gave an example of Dunkirk as an example of mass evacuation of a mass of people on short notice. It's not a perfect comparison but much better than the Pyramids.

Oh please - Picard co-opting Utopia Planitia to save the oldest an most mortal enemy (after himself over the run of TNG invoking the PD as a justification to let more than one world and its civilization die over the run of TNG when he commanded the 1701-D) pretty much shows it WAS Picard's own personal vanity project.