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News Brent Spiner Returned for "Picard" (and you could do the CGI better in 15 minutes, we get it)

The original concept had God and Satan in a final battle in front of Kirk, Spock and Bones. That is nothing like any Star Trek that I've ever seen.
They should have gone with the idea that the 'god-face' villain was Gary Mitchell.
That at least would have brought the movies and show full circle.
It also would have added another reason why Sybok chose to infiltrate the Enterprise, he was unknowingly being influenced by god-Mitchell to bring Kirk to him.

As for how Gary ended up in that place...,
At the last second just before the boulder landed on him, he threw his consciousness out into the universe.
It then drifted as a disembodied entity for decades before eventually ending up drawn to and stuck within that energy barrier.
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The original concept had God and Satan in a final battle in front of Kirk, Spock and Bones. That is nothing like any Star Trek that I've ever seen.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who'd actually want to see this. You want epic scale? What's more epic than a battle between the equally matched polar opposites of All Creation?
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who'd actually want to see this. You want epic scale? What's more epic than a battle between the equally matched polar opposites of All Creation?
Star Trek will never properly do religion. Remember when Pike was a religious man in the first episode of Discovery season two? And the whole thing with the Church? That went nowhere...
 
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Star Trek will never properly do religion. Remember when Pike was a religious man in the first episode of Discovery season two? And they whole thing with the Church? That went nowhere...

Oh, I know they'll never do it. I'd just get a kick out of watching such a battle with 1989 production values. :p
 
Star Trek will never properly do religion. Remember when Pike was a religious man in the first episode of Discovery season two? And the whole thing with the Church? That went nowhere...
They do religion just fine. Like in TFF where the conclusion is that the God is fake and that's fine as the answers we seek are within ourselves. Or all those other times they take down false deities.
 
Star Trek will never properly do religion. Remember when Pike was a religious man in the first episode of Discovery season two? And the whole thing with the Church? That went nowhere...
Yes, good. They really dodged a bullet there.
 
That was disappointing.
It is. I appreciate Roddenberry's humanist views, as well as the idea of religion and spirituality becoming more of a private matter rather than a public organization like contemporary religious institutions. But, I think there was a missed opportunity to have a person be a spiritual and religious person and exist inside of Starfleet.

I get it. Religion and spirituality isn't for everyone. But, that doesn't mean no one might still have spiritual beliefs. And that's OK. IDIC doesn't just mean "Things I agree with."
 
It is. I appreciate Roddenberry's humanist views, as well as the idea of religion and spirituality becoming more of a private matter rather than a public organization like contemporary religious institutions. But, I think there was a missed opportunity to have a person be a spiritual and religious person and exist inside of Starfleet.

I get it. Religion and spirituality isn't for everyone. But, that doesn't mean no one might still have spiritual beliefs. And that's OK. IDIC doesn't just mean "Things I agree with."

I’m not a religious man, though I’m not bothered by religious themes in stories. I hold them to the same standards as other types of stories and characters.

Plus, we know religion was still a thing in the 23rd century. No reason to hide from it.
 
Apropos, part of an interview back in 2018 with Chabon:

Let’s talk about the Jews. When Gene Roddenberry created “Star Trek,” he laid out a future in which humanity would move beyond religion. Spock is Jew-ish, many would say. And we’ve got Theodore Bikel doing Worf’s adopted father in “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” coded as a Jew, but not explicitly. But where are the full-on Jews in “Star Trek”? Is there room for a character that explicitly identifies with a religious-ethnic group?

It’s not just Jews who are absent; it’s any kind of explicitly religious characters. I can’t think of any explicitly Christian or Hindu or Muslim characters in “Star Trek.” We get Vulcan religion, Klingon religion and other [alien] religions, especially the Bajorans [on “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine”], sometimes discussions of godlike beings, but I don’t think the absence of Jews is significant in itself.

Roddenberry had a lot of rules for the future, many of which have been bent or broken over the years. Is there room for exploring the role of religion and spirituality in the human experience, or is that an immutable rule of “Star Trek”?

I don’t think any rules are immutable, but I’m not in the decision-making place on that. The best answer I can give is, I don’t really know. As you say, there does seem to be greater willingness over time. There began to be signs of deviation from the initial marching orders from “The Original Series” in all the subsequent series, but as a writer and someone who takes an interest in these topics, it would be interesting.

Considering he's "interested in these topics" I wonder if something made it into Picard?
 
On Trekcore's twitter page Data's flashback scenes he'll be shown in the TNG Uniform and hid Nemesis Uniform in the scenes he filmed for Season one.I hope we'll get some news about the role he'll have for the new Picard series.
 
this is a cute interview with spiner and sirtis. they discuss the fact that data looked terrible in the early trailers and spiner says they were initially going to CGI him back to the way he looked in TNG, but the cost was prohibitive so they only de-aged him so far as nemesis.

of course, take with a little skepticism, actors aren't always the most reliable sources for this kind of information.
 
"After a discussion, I said, “Well, you understand I don’t have to be CGI’d back to what I looked like on the series, it has to look like how I looked at the end of ‘Nemesis.’” And they went, “Oh, sure, that’s right! No problem! We’re gonna do it.”

And they did. It has changed a bit, though, from some trailers that came out early –

SIRTIS: You looked awful.

SPINER: Yeah, it didn’t look good. But they’ve repaired all that since. They just hadn’t finished yet."

from: http://blog.trekcore.com/2020/01/in...IBovuCkUGKpOKGsz9F0j0snFUH5CboPwBF7wa6oA6NZyQ
 
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