I just think the internet shows what we were all along. We just now have a bigger web to spill our various views.
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I just think the internet shows what we were all along. We just now have a bigger web to spill our various views.
I think it’s fair to suggest while that may be the case, because of echo chambers and anonymity, we now say a lot of things we wouldn’t say in person. We’ve lost the ability to have civil discourse and discuss the issues.
But that's still just plain incorrect. How many pre-ANH Han Solo books were there to adapt? Choosing to make a new story for their Solo movie was an entirely legitimate choice, but it doesn't change the fact there were other options. How many X-Wing novels are out there that can still be adapted with changes on par with changes the MCU makes to the story arcs they take inspiration from? How many Old Republic novels/comics/games, or other stories set generations or centuries before the PT, and therefore not obviously incompatible with Disney canon the way the Thrawn Trilogy is? And even elements of the Thrawn Trilogy could still fit into the gap between RotJ and TFA, if they wanted to make such a film. I'm not saying they should; I'm just saying they have such resources.
And my point is, Rogue One and Solo are so heavily based upon ANH they're barely original stories at all, and that TFA and TLJ remake ANH and ESB to such a degree they're pretty much adaptations of decades-old source material themselves, just as much as The Walking Dead is an adaptation of the comic books.
I'll give Lucasfilm credit for making a creatively unique and new Star Wars movie if they make one that isn't hugely dependent upon a prior SW movie. Say, a Doctor Aphra flick, though that would likely be as much an adaptation of comic source material as MCU movies are. But, until they do, trying to elicit sympathy by claiming there's no source material to draw from is a bit rich, is all I'm saying.
I agree. It use to be inpolite to talk about religion and politics and now people can never shut about them. People would be more happy if just let people's views slide when they say something because the confict just makes everyone miserable. Trying to change people's minds never works and neither do insults. All you do is state your opions and hope people won't judge you to harshly when they conflict with their. Basically see the best qualties in someone instead of their flaws. Jason
Amazing job!
Completely agree. The ability to interact socially is a completely lost art. Teens are feeling more emotionally isolated and disconnected. Depression increases, struggles increase and it is fueled by this echo chamber that creates a vicious cycle.
echo chambers, filter bubbles, anonymity. its has all the ingredients to make minor negative tendancies worse
but it can be more, and it is too. I would have never got to meet hardly any of you here if it were not for a forum like this.
That's right. Internet haters needs to remember that they are hating on the internet while using the internet to do it.
No, this “issue” you keep complaining about only exists in your imagination. You feel threatened by changing demographics and equal representation believing that it is taking something away from you. Nothing is being taken away from you and the identity politics that you constantly rant about is not a real concern except to people who are really just trying to attack women, other races, and so on which ropes in people like yourself for some reason. This is going to take you down a terrible and dark path. You should really try to think about what you’re worried about happening. It’s nonsensical and this is why you can’t find anyone who agrees with you. For your own sake, reconsider this because you sound like a racist crazy person. The people who talk about identity politics are really concerned with keeping white men as superior to everyone else and is trying people towards white supremacy groups and violence. You don’t have to join them.
I'm just worried that the story is less important than the need for inclusion. Star wars was a pulp sci fi innocent bit of entertainment. Now all everyone talks about is what race and what gender everyone is.
Give me *one* solid example where inclusivity both *directly* and *negatively* impacted the story of a Star Wars movie. And no "I didn't like X story and it had a woman/PoC in it" is not a valid example.
No, it’s all YOU talk about.
We would rather talk about the movie, but YOU turn every thread into some insane obsession with women in front and behind the camera and diversity.
Then why not avoid being a hypocrite instead of giving any rational human being the notion that you're obsessed with maintaining the maleness and whiteness status of movies. You're not fooling anyone. Maybe yourself, but I kind of doubt that, too.
This is how you look FSM.
What are we supposed to think when this is all you talk about?
What are we supposed to think when this is all you talk about?
Congrats on two scores there.
Just one question, how on earth are you managing to find the time to post?
@Flying Spaghetti Monster let me ask you a question.
If the fanbase is split, as you say, how do you account for the rather united front you are being presented with here by, well, fans?
Are you willing to consider the possibility that this has all been overstated?
Yeah I was just about to type almost exactly that. How can he complain about "people" talking about the political issues when it's only him talking.
Cannot be serious.
We ARE on a Star Trek message board. Star Trek has been a liberal show from the beginning, so I don't think it's surprising that we are mostly united against bigotry.
A fair question!
90% of my posting is at a job I don’t intend to keep long after I finish the degree. The other 10% is either on breaks from school or in the middle of a night dealing with the aftermath of teething, diaper changes and just general baby issues.
You earn a Like for that alone.
This is, arguably, a good insight. Problem is I've not personally noted an awful lot of tolerance amongst trek fans down the years.
Insofar as most of us posting here represent an overlap it seems to me there was far more of a divide over politics in DSC than TLJ.
A fair question!
90% of my posting is at a job I don’t intend to keep long after I finish the degree. The other 10% is either on breaks from school or in the middle of a night dealing with the aftermath of teething, diaper changes and just general baby issues.
Slacking then?
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