This mistaken notion you keep expressing to the effect that everyone or most people like or dislike what you like or dislike is really something you should abandon.
Since I never made that claim, that's not a problem. But the empirical data, the ratings, shows that people are not happy with the state of Supergirl since it decided to go political.
My father is a conservative. I talk to him about it. But, I haven’t talked to anyone right-wing.
And not to discuss it, but those who think separating kids from their parents should be demonized.
And again, you are completely off on the conservative position and are just parroting what the left tells you to think. I'd respond with more detail, but again, too off topic. This is a thread in and of itself, and as tempting as it is, the only thing I can say is that I respect those who want to talk Superman enough not to counter.
It’s absolutely political. He fights crime and straight up murders people. He’s judge jury and executioner, with no regards for civil liberties. The Arrow doesn’t care about the rule of law or the Constitution.
And maybe if they chose to make a theme of that on the show, you might have a point, but they don't. Arrow's status as a vigilante isn't really covered that way--not consistently. They aren't getting on a soapbox and saying what he does is right or wrong. They have had Oliver face consequences, but that's not political.
It IS something that would be interesting to cover had they gone that route in more detail, but they didn't.
But what’s Superman? Superman had changed over the decades. Are you talking the Curt Swan Superman? Bronze Age? Golden? Reeves? Reece? The Superman from the Animated Series?
I think it's safe to say that in every era, Superman was not a housewife. There are common themes with Superman, and none of them involve him being a wimp. That said, it was a bit of an issue in the first season of the animated Justice League, but it was not intentional and the writers listened and adjusted in the second season.
Supergirl is sold internationally—yay capitalism—millions around the world watch it.
Anemic ratings. You're guessing, but the ratings are available. The audience has dropped. And compared to other shows, people don't care about it.
All art is political in someway. It’s either advocating for the status quo or it’s asking for change. You don’t see when art is asking for the status quo because you need and want it. You, however, feel threatened when it’s asking for a change.
You have my empathy. The world is changing and that’s hard for some people, not knowing where they belong.
I know where I belong, and you have my empathy too, as your side of the aisle only spews hatred and intolerance, which is ironic since they think they are the opposite.
Change is not always good, and Supergirl has proven that, with the massive ratings drop.
But something tells me that focusing on real word politics (which the Supergirl comic book doesn't do-and yes, I read it each month) may have contributed to the low ratings, in addition to whatever backlash is occurring towards shows led by women characters due to to people believing that they are misandrist Mary Sue shows.
Of course the politics is a problem. They would be a problem if Supergirl preached conservative values too and demonized liberals. It doesn't really matter which side they take.
I don't think it's about believing these shows are Mary Sue shows, though there has been quite a bit of misandry on Supergirl. But let me point out something similar but in many ways opposite--Wonder Woman. That movie involved a lot of similar concepts. You had a strong woman lead. She fought men. She beat them. She is a bad ass. But the key difference is that Wonder Woman was a hero that is a woman, and did not go around hating men or weakening classic characters to make her strong. The writers came up with a strong story that didn't have to do anything of the sort. Steve Trevor was physically, not even close to Wonder Woman in strength. If they fought, Wonder Woman could physically beat him with one finger, easily.
But he wasn't a wimp. His bravery and heroism matched hers, and neither was a threat to the other. They didn't need Wonder Woman to fight Superman to make her tougher, and in fact, in Justice League, briefly, Superman was getting the better of Wonder Woman, and it didn't matter. She is a badass and you throw punches with her like any male hero. It was about right and wrong, not about making a statement.
Supergirl was like that in its earliest seasons. It changed. The differences between Supergirl and Wonder Woman are staggering, yet both have female leads.
