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"We will add your technological and biological distinctiveness to our own ..."

I always thought it was bizarre that the Borg Queen dies in First Contact then returns in Voyager (and dies again in the last episode).
I believe she dies in all 4 appearances, plus "Best of Both worlds" retroactively. The queen must be on every ship, and can be assembled if needed.
 
The only way I've been able to make peace with the Borg Queen concept was by rationalizing it as an avatar of the Collective. That said, TPTB certainly made that harder to do over time as the Queen seemed to increasingly exhibit standalone behavior.

And I still think they should have had a Borg King at some point.

I think that's why she was created too. To give the viewer something to relate to. Especially for the regular viewer. Having it not always be a disembodied voice talking gives something for the viewer to just simply see and relate in some way too.
 
When one Queen dies, there's another one ready to take her place.
I'm not entirely sure of this. The Queen in the Unimatrix complex ordered a cube to divert from its course and intercept Voyager at the end of Endgame. That would imply that even if there's a queen per vessel, there is some kind of hierarchy within the collective as well...
 
I'm not entirely sure of this. The Queen in the Unimatrix complex ordered a cube to divert from its course and intercept Voyager at the end of Endgame. That would imply that even if there's a queen per vessel, there is some kind of hierarchy within the collective as well...

Seven was a high-ranking drone (in Dark Frontier, she had the ear of the Borg Queen herself).
 
Well, there's only one Queen, but she exists on every vessel.

Jeez, you guys think in such...3 dimensional terms:crazy:
 
The only way I've been able to make peace with the Borg Queen concept was by rationalizing it as an avatar of the Collective. That said, TPTB certainly made that harder to do over time as the Queen seemed to increasingly exhibit standalone behavior.

And I still think they should have had a Borg King at some point.

Which is what Locutus was. The introduction of the Borg Queen gutted the whole purpose of Best of Both Worlds.

It would have made more sense to have Queen be an intentional replacement for Locutus instead of a retcon that was supposedly always there
 
Except that in FC Picard claims that the Borg Queen was hoping to make something like herself with Locutus but he ended up being just another drone...IIRC.
 
The introduction of the Borg Queen gutted the whole purpose of Best of Both Worlds.

Which makes the Borg Queen absolutely useless and a huge mistake.

Remember the scene in 'First Contact' where the Queen reminds Picard that she was around the time TBOBW happened? Picard says: "you were there always".
Picard could have continued the discussion by asking "then why did you assimilate me as your spokesperson?"
Well, maybe the Borg wanted someone the Feds already knew and so on.. blah blah.
Borg Queen is still a stupid idea. In my opinion. Alice Krige was awesome as the Queen though. :)
 
There's always been a spokesperson for the Borg. The closest we ever get to not having one is Q-Who, but even then we have Guinan, and especially Q to speak for them. He's literally standing over Picard's shoulder at every moment explaining or hinting at what's going on.

In BOBW, it's Picard
In iBorg, it's Hugh
In Descent, there's that guy who manipulates Data, then there's Lore, and on the sidelines Hugh
In Scorpion, it's Seven
And in FC, Dark Frontier, Unimatrix, and Endgame it's the Queen

In..wait, there is one episode where the Borg have no spokesperson, or anyone else to communicate their intents and motives. It's Enterprise's "Regeneration," and the only reason that episode works so well is because the crew have never seen or heard of the Borg and have no idea what to do about them, so they were able to sort of pull off a second "Q-Who."
 
There's always been a spokesperson for the Borg. The closest we ever get to not having one is Q-Who, but even then we have Guinan, and especially Q to speak for them. He's literally standing over Picard's shoulder at every moment explaining or hinting at what's going on.

In BOBW, it's Picard
In iBorg, it's Hugh
In Descent, there's that guy who manipulates Data, then there's Lore, and on the sidelines Hugh
In Scorpion, it's Seven
And in FC, Dark Frontier, Unimatrix, and Endgame it's the Queen

In..wait, there is one episode where the Borg have no spokesperson, or anyone else to communicate their intents and motives. It's Enterprise's "Regeneration," and the only reason that episode works so well is because the crew have never seen or heard of the Borg and have no idea what to do about them, so they were able to sort of pull off a second "Q-Who."
No in "Q-Who" they have no one single spokesperson. Both Q and Guinan speak ABOUT them and their background. Neither one speaks for them.

IMO once they were 'humanized' they lost a LOT as a unique Villain as Starfleet has ALWAYS assumed any species could be negotiated with but in both "Q-Who" and even "Best of Both Worlds" the Borg were more like locusts. In BoBW they wanted Picard ONLY because they felt it would help them in assimilating the worlds under the banner of the Federation (which was their intent). I always came across to me that this was a temporary thing (IE Once they'd finished the Federation assimilation; Picard would become just another Drone.

ST:C was probably the best and most entertaining TNG based feature film out of the 4 TNG films they did, but IMO what it did for/too the Borg as a whole pretty much sucked. (YMMV of course).
 
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