Poll Is Rey a Mary Sue?
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So, in this case, I suggest this recipe I'm particularly fond of. It's quite simple 
Spaghetti with chilli and garlic
Ingredients
Spaghetti with chilli and garlic
Ingredients
- 400g/14oz spaghetti
- 3 fresh red chillies
- 3 garlic cloves
- 5 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
- 1 tbsp chopped flat leaf parsley
- salt
- Bring a pot of salted water to the boil and add the spaghetti. Cook until the spaghetti is soft but still has a little bite.
- While the spaghetti is cooking, remove the seeds from the chillies and finely chop. Peel and finely chop the garlic.
- Heat the olive oil in a large frying pan. Cook the garlic and chillies gently for a few minutes.
- Drain the spaghetti and add to the frying pan, mix to coat with the oil.
- Sprinkle the spaghetti with the parsley, season with salt and serve.
Except Luke didn't need the Force whatsoever to destroy the death star as the dialogue gives it all away in that for fun he shoots rats from a distance with a weapon in a speeding vehicle. Unless that was a rewrite of the old cliched tale of how drugs and magical thinking don't resolve problems?
That's no more or less true than any other inference regarding how long one needs to take. Except for when Yoda says it but he was repeating what Luke already impetuously did a movie earlier.
Apart from moving a lightsaber with his mind, which may ore may not have been the case had the previous movie not told him he has magical thinking powers, especially when the alleged payoff is easily debunked as dialogue that's contrary to The Force proves he was just using his rat shooting timing skills. It took him a lot longer to see how one can lift big heavy spaceships. And he still stumbled... Heck, in ROTJ he could have been whizzing the entire barge and having all the bad guys twirling in a tornado and chucking them down the pit. That'd look pretty dumb, wouldn't it? At least it'd be after 3 movies, having to struggle in building experience. If Kylo is so much more powerful and trained, the odds of anyone untrained beating Kylo in a fight seem conspicuously small by comparison. How is that not an unfair claim to make? Of course, it's been almost 4 years since I sat through Ep VII and Kylo losing aside that scene did have some gripping moments that the PT couldn't even begin to get right, that had nothing to do with being a rehash of IV... the character archetypes and potential sold the drama satisfactorily on their own despite the nitpicks.
But does it take years to juggle rocks? How many and for how long and to the tolerance of the individual? Luke didn't learn to pilot a ship in seconds or minutes, but they never showed that on screen. Even in the third movie he couldn't whiz bang things around the way Vader did with ease in the previous one. To become a Jedi one must keep going back to the only Sith Lord available and not the prize in the bottom of a popcorn box that anyone can grab... So, no, Luke is not perfect and TLJ isn't apocryphal either, sorry for digressing. Rey had her own struggles but there sure were a few conveniences that do raise not invalid questions as a result. But each person's magical force thinking is different, as well as the strength or when it's first developed or realized...
So, in this case, I suggest this recipe I'm particularly fond of. It's quite simple
Spaghetti with chilli and garlic
Ingredients
- 400g/14oz spaghetti
- 3 fresh red chillies
- 3 garlic cloves
- 5 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
- 1 tbsp chopped flat leaf parsley
- salt
- Bring a pot of salted water to the boil and add the spaghetti. Cook until the spaghetti is soft but still has a little bite.
- While the spaghetti is cooking, remove the seeds from the chillies and finely chop. Peel and finely chop the garlic.
- Heat the olive oil in a large frying pan. Cook the garlic and chillies gently for a few minutes.
- Drain the spaghetti and add to the frying pan, mix to coat with the oil.
- Sprinkle the spaghetti with the parsley, season with salt and serve.
Can we use stringy squash instead of empty carbs?
Be my guest! Let me know how it tastesCan we use stringy squash instead of empty carbs?
Can we use stringy squash instead of empty carbs?
Boo! You are history's greatest monster.
Gotta make an off topic thread for that. Otherwise there is a strictly enforced NO FUN ALLOWED policy.People are having fun! Can’t have that!
We all need something to laugh about.
Cooking Portions with Rey will be on
Disney+.
Disney+.
Rey cooks a merry stew.
Too many cooks spoil the broth
So the main character with the Force is the best Jedi ever? Say it isn’t so!
At least there isn’t a Chosen One who will bring balance to the Force or the galaxy’s last hope. That would just be absurd.
At least there isn’t a Chosen One who will bring balance to the Force or the galaxy’s last hope. That would just be absurd.
The article's comments are... instructive. It's really show that all the "Is Rey a Mary Sue?" isn't really some kind a literature discussion but more a, well, ideological one...
Meantime, here something from Peter David, someone who actually is a writer. And an appreciated one.
“Is Rey a Mary Sue?”
Oh, and of course there’s the greatest sin of all. Rey was a female. If Rey had been a guy, fans would have said, “Cool, he’s almost as bad-ass as Luke.” But because Rey was a female, the reaction instead was, “How dare this girl be almost as bad-ass as Luke!” Fans will deny this, of course, but until Rey came along, the entire Star Wars universe in film had exactly two female characters: Leia and Mon Mothma, the latter of whom didn’t have much to do at any point except bark orders and look worried. The fact that the new films changes the male/female ratio simply infuriates fans who think the modern creators have no business adding additional females (with the exception of Phasma because you can’t see her face and also she’s played by Brienne of Tarth, an acceptable ass kicker in and of herself.)
Really, this is the real point. This isn't some academic discussion about narrative tropes. This is about some little sad guy who don't want half of the humanity in what they consider, for unfathomably reasons, their playground.
Even the Chosen One struggled. Even the Chosen One trained. Even the Chosen One had actual conversations about what he personally wanted
