New Short Trek: The Trouble With Edward

[WebLurker]

Hoping the Short Treks get a DVD/BluRay release, since that'll be the only way I can see it. The wonky continuity has me apprehensive, but I did like Rosa Salazar in Alita and do appreciate funny Star Trek stories.

This review is unintentionally hilarious. Tribble continuity is ruined!

Everything Bernd posts about the Kurtzman-eta of Trek is unintentionally hilarious. Even the comments intended to be positive have this histrionic quality to them. He acts like any disregard for continuity is a heresy against a precious population that it's his sworn duty to protect from evil, evil heresy. Like we're all out here trembling if he doesn't swoop in to save the day by yelling on the Internet. It's exhausting.

EDIT:

LOL.

Yeah, Bernd has been on the road to becoming the next James Dixon for some time now. I do not care for the liberties with canon being taken as of late much myself, so I can sometimes empathize with his feeling that DSC is damaging the timeline and all that and arguably should've been a hard reboot. Still, the sheer anger and entitlement here is something I can't relate to at all.

 

[Jayson1]

Hoping the Short Treks get a DVD/BluRay release, since that'll be the only way I can see it. The wonky continuity has me apprehensive, but I did like Rosa Salazar in Alita and do appreciate funny Star Trek stories.




Yeah, Bernd has been on the road to becoming the next James Dixon for some time now. I do not care for the liberties with canon being taken as of late much myself, so I can sometimes empathize with his feeling that DSC is damaging the timeline and all that and arguably should've been a hard reboot. Still, the sheer anger and entitlement here is something I can't relate to at all.

If it helps I believe the first one is on Youtube. Jason

 

[Charles Phipps]

Crypto-history is a very fun hobby for people like myself. I spent a decade of my life piecing together the history of the Star Wars Expanded Universe before it was cancelled. However, we do kind of need to remember...it is fictional and that means it is mutable.

So never take your arguments TOO seriously.

 

[WebLurker]

If it helps I believe the first one is on Youtube. Jason

Took a look and am not seeing any full shorts. Plenty of trailers and reaction/review videos (and not more then a few "Star Trek is destroyed"-style ones).

 

[Jayson1]

Took a look and am not seeing any full shorts. Plenty of trailers and reaction/review videos (and not more then a few "Star Trek is destroyed"-style ones).

What I found was it was broken up in 3 parts but it might not be their anymore. Jason

 

[Qonundrum]

Certainly, Larkin is directly to blame for everything since he disobeyed a direct order and created the mutated tribbles. But the captain is always responsible for everything that happens on the ship. Also, she did not handle the incident well after the initial outbreak of tribbles. Why not have the ship automatically lock on to all tribble life signs and beam them into space? And, I don't care how fast tribbles procreate, the fact that it literally got to the point where tribbles filled the entire ship and the ship had to be abandoned, tells me that she waited too long to act. Also, she failed to prevent the tribbles from spreading the to planet too where the entire civ had to be abandoned as well.

This is before ShatnerKirk's time where ShatnerKirk always states the captain is the one responsible for the crew's actions. Meaning Starfleet is still going through growing pains. It's the only way this epic adventure could begin to work. Then again, there is no way this takes place in the same universe/timeline as ShatnerKirk.

And on a side note regarding this episode; while fantasy requires suspension of disbelief, which helps when there's no concrete facts for said fantasy to rely on, it's probably not unsafe to say that human DNA in a Tribble is not going to do much of anything. For more fun, check this out this real science, which says nothing about the probability of actually getting to other planets (of which nobody needs a series of degrees to understand the basics along with currently documented physics, which is extensive but I digress to and with the point that the Hibble/Truman amalgamation could very do what was sold on screen, if you're really wanting that - hilarious ending, though...) --> https://listverse.com/2018/06/25/10-experiments-that-have-created-real-human-animal-hybrids/

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Eww

 

[Uhura's Song]

Meh on this one.

OK but nothing more.

 

[Amasov]

I will say this episode gave us one of the best Enterprise flybys ever.

 

[WebLurker]

I will say this episode gave us one of the best Enterprise flybys ever.

Yeah. While it does make hash over when this design was used vs. the original TOS pilots' configuration (although at this point, I think that's just a continuity mess we're going to have to learn to live with), that is a very well-done sequence.

 

[eschaton]

I will say this episode gave us one of the best Enterprise flybys ever.

People claimed when the short aired that was an alien planet, but it pretty clearly looks like the Bay of Bengal in the background.

 

[Push The Button]

I will say this episode gave us one of the best Enterprise flybys ever.

It was nice to see old 1701 orbiting a planet again, and she’s even going in the proper direction.

 

[Lord Garth]

I hate saying this but I think the Enterprise should have more illumination, similar to the TMP Enterprise. My only gripe with the shot.

 

[DaveyNY]

I hate saying this but I think the Enterprise should have more illumination, similar to the TMP Enterprise. My only gripe with the shot.

Yeah, I personally prefer the fantasy lit flybys we got with TOS rather than the more realistic ones we get now-a-days.

 

[Rahul]

I will say this episode gave us one of the best Enterprise flybys ever.

One of my pet peeves of modern spaceship cgi is starships drifting for the camera, doing curves around a planet like a car around a pole, even leaning into curves.

Planet orbits are friggin' huuuge. Realistically it should look like the ship is moving on a straight line. Instead it wobbles around the camera to show all it's angles, starting from a top-down view to end up showing its bottom. And yet, the background is static, so it's really not the camera flying around the ship, but the ship wobbling on front of the camera.

But even shows with much better space-vfx like Firefly or the Expanse get that wrong. I think the only modern shows to get that right were nuBSG and nuLost in Space. Funnily enough, the OLD shows that used models often look more accurate in this regard - because of the restrictions of their time.

 

[Rahul]

(also, the lightning in this specific shot is WAY off - judging by the light on the planet, the front of the Enterprise should be directly in the bright sunlight)

It should be added that I like their interpretation of the spinning nacelle caps A LOT though.

 

[F. King Daniel]

One of my pet peeves of modern spaceship cgi is starships drifting for the camera, doing curves around a planet like a car around a pole, even leaning into curves.

Planet orbits are friggin' huuuge. Realistically it should look like the ship is moving on a straight line. Instead it wobbles around the camera to show all it's angles, starting from a top-down view to end up showing its bottom. And yet, the background is static, so it's really not the camera flying around the ship, but the ship wobbling on front of the camera.

But even shows with much better space-vfx like Firefly or the Expanse get that wrong. I think the only modern shows to get that right were nuBSG and nuLost in Space. Funnily enough, the OLD shows that used models often look more accurate in this regard - because of the restrictions of their time.

Certainly not TOS, where the Enterprise orbited a planet approximately the size of a basketball.

 

[Rahul]

Certainly not TOS, where the Enterprise orbited a planet approximately the size of a basketball.

TOS is weird, in that it had both the best AND the worst space shots. I still think no other vfx-shot manages to visualize the kinetic energy of a giant starship as great as the ship swooooshing past the camera in the intro. And only few vfx shots have the clarity of the ship flying sideways past the camera in their most re-used shots.

And othertimes, you have those drifting turns around tiny planets that you mentioned, or the camera circling around the ship from front to sideways, all while the starfield in the background stays completely static, or worse, stars move at different speeds in different directions, or chunks of the ship suddenly missing for a second, and so on...

TOS really is a lot like theater. In some ways it's remarkably close to reality. In others, you really need to use your imagination, or the whole thing becomes ridiculous to look at. Did I already mentioned I love TOS?

 

[Timo]

Well, if "standard orbit" is a figure-eight above the Landing Party, then tight turns are only to be expected. And why would the orbit be anything but? Horizons prevent transporting, and phasering of any local temples or computers or whatnot.

It was only TOS-R that actually first showed the ship flying past the horizon of a basketball-sized planet! (Or then disappearing into the distance before making the next sharp turn in the figure-eight, and the point of disappearance just coincided with the horizon...)

(also, the lightning in this specific shot is WAY off - judging by the light on the planet, the front of the Enterprise should be directly in the bright sunlight)

Obviously both of the ships are in the shadow of the giant moon just outside the frame.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[plynch]

Why did she ask if they were intelligent? All things have some intelligence, even plants, which might know how to curl when encountering a fence post; or when to release some toxin to fight off a bacterium. Cows are intelligent (not as much as we who are destroying the planet, of course) and we eat them.

Did she mean sentient?

(Of course, now, the more I read, even sentience is probably a gradient, not a yes-no proposition.)

 

[Amasov]

I hate saying this but I think the Enterprise should have more illumination, similar to the TMP Enterprise. My only gripe with the shot.

That would've been nice. I suspect nowadays they are going for the more realistic approach of operating on the assumption that there isn't always a sun nearby illuminating the ship. There are some really dark shots of Discovery that were getting to me. Makes it difficult to see the ships lines.