Anyone else being reminded of the old fannon Stardate system? YYMM.DD. Today is 1908.07. Not gonna lie though, it looked a lot more impressive during the 90's
Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)
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I am U.S.-American, and I judge the way we speak to be ridiculously stupid. Going in sequence from largest to smallest or smallest to largest is logically useful, and yet millions of Yanks have no critical thinking skills to go beyond their own horizons. After all, this is the same country that as a whole decided to keep the absurdly unintuitive imperial system of customary units.
If you were to describe the scale of body parts to someone else, would you not say "body-face-nose" or "nose-face-body"? Why would you go out of sequence to say "face-nose-body"? We also give the house number first in most street addresses, and yet no one seems to think the day should matter first in giving a common date. Except of course when everyone gathers to drink for el cinco de mayo or the Fourth of July. If you already have some context, then is the day not the most pertinent detail to be known? And yet somehow this ridiculous country settled on citing the month first.
As David cgc points out, dating computer files works most smoothly in YMD order. And yet Yanks go around confusing everyone else in international business with the MDY date format which only they have an inclination for.
Eh, why are you quoting me? Are we not in agreement?
Almost every log entry by Jonathan Archer in ENT. Data giving the date of first contact with Vulcans in First Contact. Michael Burnham's log entry in Discovery 1x01.
For all of Star Trek's claims of representing an interstellar future for a united humankind, the details will always fall short in some way as a result of Yank culture's predilection for assuming our way is the best and only way.
Perhaps you may consider me to be making a mountain out of a molehill, but this is one hill I am willing to die on because I am sick of death of people in this country claiming to be exceptional while doing stupid things for no reason that do not have to happen.
Voyager's Homestead obviously takes place on April 5, since they're celebrating First Contact Day and actually do specify Cochrane making contact with the Vulcans.
David Mack posted on Facebook about Collateral Damage being the culmination of the Next Gen end of the novelverse which began in A Time To... but added that "If you think this is the end of the current continuity... let's just say we Trek scribblers have a few rabbits to pull out of our hats..."
Does Mr. Mack imply future books with jump to the new Picard continuity?
Is there a website that has a brief synopsis of the novels in the post-TNG continuity? Or at least a chronological list of those novels? As a causal fan that has read many of those books but not all, and many of them were years ago, it might be good to have a refresher of events. That character is here because of X. This event happened, which led to that event. And so on.
Some of the entries on Memory Beta do have a synopsis, but not all of them.
If all you want is just a simple list of books, then I use this site. It doesn't have recaps or anything, it just lists the books in chronological order.
If all you want is just a simple list of books, then I use this site. It doesn't have recaps or anything, it just lists the books in chronological order.
It's the culmination of a particular storyline that was planted in A Time to... and was blown up in Section 31: Control and furthered a bit in Available Light. Bits from some of Dave's other books also play a part in Collateral Damage.
(Being vague for those who've not read those books).
The list he gave:
TNG: A Time to Kill (the Tezwa crisis)
TNG: A Time to Heal (the Tezwa coverup and its aftermath)
TNG: Cold Equations, Book I: The Persistence of Memory (Data’s reincarnation)
Titan: Fortune of War (the Riker/Sarai/Batanides subplot)
Section 31: Control (the Section 31 controversy)
TNG: Hearts and Minds by Dayton Ward (the Section 31 fallout)
TNG: Available Light by Dayton Ward (more Section 31 fallout)
More to follow.
None.
The way Beyond framed the death of Ambassador Spock left me with the impression that there was no passing on of his katra to Kelvin!Spock, that Spock had no idea of the Ambassador's death until receiving the notification, though a prior, more general mind meld between them doesn't seem out of the question.
Picard was jumping between universes in "Q&A". He may have been living in an alternative universe since then and never actually been aware of it..
Perhaps it's time for Q Cubed. Or Q to the fifth power or something.
I remind people there's more continuities than just the Novels and Online too.
The Kirk and Picard Biographies are also their own continuity.
Plus the original novels.
Parallel realities, not alternate realities.
Or Q did it.
Mind you, this is what the novels DO for the most part. Sometimes with amazing aplomb. I think my favorite was the Breen retcon.
A reboot is sad but it had a very good run. You could also do an in-universe retcon with time travel too. The appearance of Control in Star Trek: Discovery made me feel the new continuity will liberally take from the novels, though. Which I find to be a great thing.
The Kirk and Picard Biographies are also their own continuity.
Plus the original novels.
Parallel realities, not alternate realities.
Or Q did it.
Mind you, this is what the novels DO for the most part. Sometimes with amazing aplomb. I think my favorite was the Breen retcon.
A reboot is sad but it had a very good run. You could also do an in-universe retcon with time travel too. The appearance of Control in Star Trek: Discovery made me feel the new continuity will liberally take from the novels, though. Which I find to be a great thing.
I kind of worry this "plan" for the litverse continuity is basically something along the lines of what we saw in the recent Disco novel The Enterprise War which is basically just twisting the various way in which Disco season 2 contradicted the novels in a way which makes them consistent again. Which if anything just makes things feel more schizophrenic and makes it even clearer the novels are a completely separate continuity than the show.
Mind you, it's not like the show didn't make those kind of twists that needed to be reconciled all the time.
I like how this seems to feel like it incorporates a lot of Star Trek Online (or more likely is parallel development). The Romulans, the Borg, and possible experimentation with both. I feel bad that Picard's fear about "disposable people" has happened with Starfleet apparently making an army of Datas.
I unironically am also more excited about Jeri Ryan's participation than Patrick Stewart's. Which isn't a knock on him, more an appreciation for her and what she can bring to the table. Allison Pill is also someone I hope gets a big boost from this.
I do hope Jean Luc is divorced in this as I was always fond of the Crusher/Picard romance. The divorce explaining her absence versus death or never getting together in the first place.
I unironically am also more excited about Jeri Ryan's participation than Patrick Stewart's. Which isn't a knock on him, more an appreciation for her and what she can bring to the table. Allison Pill is also someone I hope gets a big boost from this.
I do hope Jean Luc is divorced in this as I was always fond of the Crusher/Picard romance. The divorce explaining her absence versus death or never getting together in the first place.
That plot originated in the ST09 Prequel comic, STO just expanded on it.
