One way to improve on the Ron Moore version would be to not put these people who only heard of Earth in old legends in current clothes and give them names like William or Laura.
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The new showrunner was just quoted as saying he wasn’t doing a remake, and Baltar’s presidency isn’t any kind of a mythology beat in the franchise.
The point of the original ending was faith in something greater, but all it does to the story is turn it into a literal deus ex machina. If the Colonials are very much responsible for the here and now (and RDM said he wanted to end with our world, not one where BSG’s hull would be discovered according to an earlier idea, thus making it an alternate reality), how exactly was it done without adding pseudoscience into the equation? Going back to the alien-visitor idea wasn’t necessary for the reboot; should we accept the tie-ins to our century but hold on the fantastic notion that everything came from Kobol?
Well Lets see.. what could they change:
Change Adama to a woman.. With Starbuck as a past lover, keep starbuck female..
Some Trump analog as a president that insists on taking the fight to the Cylons, damn the consequences.. and trying to be a dictator.. that of course gets killed by Adama..
There all refugees.. so have them find an alien planet, and the aliens not wanting anything to do with them.. or keep the Colonials ( Colonials.. triger word.. the Kobalians?) in prisons..
Oh.. the religious could be persicuted.. like say the Capricans hate the .."Insert other colony".. because of some terrorist thing..
Hmm what other current event triggering thing could they do??
Change Adama to a woman.. With Starbuck as a past lover, keep starbuck female..
Some Trump analog as a president that insists on taking the fight to the Cylons, damn the consequences.. and trying to be a dictator.. that of course gets killed by Adama..
There all refugees.. so have them find an alien planet, and the aliens not wanting anything to do with them.. or keep the Colonials ( Colonials.. triger word.. the Kobalians?) in prisons..
Oh.. the religious could be persicuted.. like say the Capricans hate the .."Insert other colony".. because of some terrorist thing..
Hmm what other current event triggering thing could they do??
Yeah, that was one of the problems I had with nuBSG - these people were too much like us. Their civilization is almost a carbon copy of our own (with slightly more advanced technology, like the battlestars) - the chances of that actually happening are pretty much nil.
And don't even get me started on "All Along The Watchtower".
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I thought it made them easier to identify with ... but simultaneously, they didn't seem different enough to be plausible.
Personally, where that's concerned, I don't think the showrunners can win.
Personally, where that's concerned, I don't think the showrunners can win.
Yes, thank you, I know that. I was making a joke. You know, ha-ha, that sort of thing.
Nu BSG was never supposed to be "hard science." And while many fans did get up in arms over the ending of the series revealing everything to be the work of God, if you pay attention you can tell that's basically where the show was going all the way back in the first season.
Again, they were trying to create something the modern viewer could relate to, not create a unique and alien space civilization. And all things considered, I preferred this approach.
perhaps the path they could take with the Sam Esmail path is to revisit the concept of the Beings of Light from the original series.
I gather they would have been more prevelant if a second season had been made so have never really been explored as concept in the BSG universe and are different from the "God" of the RDM series.
I gather they would have been more prevelant if a second season had been made so have never really been explored as concept in the BSG universe and are different from the "God" of the RDM series.
If they wanted to do that, they should have just turned everything around and have the twelve worlds actually be colonies of Earth.
^^^ I'm thinking that may yet happen in this one.
Well, if there's one flaw Moore's series had, it's that nothing was thought out in advance or planned at all. When they first started putting things together, they knew they didn't want this to be a bog-standard space opera, and I agree with the approach they took to things, even in hindsight of how everything played out in the end.
How about this idea for a BSG spinoff:
Kobol, in its prime.
Kobol, in its prime.
Or Earth being the source of the Cylons..
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Noticed it says NBS in the title of the thread.. NBC Please
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Noticed it says NBS in the title of the thread.. NBC Please
One way to look at it is the way director Michael Rymer prefers, as more of an allegory, perhaps a part of the “universal translation” to bring the drama closer to the audience, but it’s not the official word. I prefer to speculate within the canon: OK, so if they did arrive 150,000 years ago, nobody survived long enough to influence anything. It’s our doing, and the Colonial story begins when our descendants settle Kobol.
The first season made it clear that the show would very much explore religion, but that’s different from constructing your story so that God and angels (or are they? “God” doesn’t like to be called that) become responsible for everything from leading the Colonials to one Earth and then another, to presumably somehow ensuring that the secret of the business suit is preserved throughout millennia. Religion and pseudoscience can’t be applied towards a convenient handwave in story construction. “Oh, we need to end now… well, what did Larson start with, ‘Life here began out there?’ So we’ll stick with that and the rest, er, somehow it filters through the millennia? Or maybe God did it?”
nBSG is one of my favorite shows, but it just went too far in the end; not that I don’t have theories of my own which remain within the confines of the canon.
I was all set to say "meh" to the whole thing but that clarification helps. That said, I still feel rather burned by Moore's final season. I never watched any of the extra movies after that, nor Caprica. I'll wait and see what Esmail comes up with before I garner any interest.
In the first season alone we had an episode where Baltar's luck changes just because he rejects God, resulting in his "Head Six" abandoning him and things don't turn right until he admits he was wrong and turns to God, resulting in "Head Six" returning to him. In light of stuff like that, the finale's assertion that everything was the work of God is hardly out of left field.
Besides, Ron Moore (who is himself an atheist) has said the religious stuff in BSG were very much a reaction to Star Trek's strict policies that everything needed a rational explanation. So with that mentality in mind, there was never a reason to expect BSG to be hard science at all.
I'm sticking with my suspicion that the "Cylon God" spoken of in nuBSG is actually Count Iblis.
The original BSG was 100% rooted in theological concepts and stories retold through a Science Fiction lens, so to expect any subsequent interpretation or iteration of it to be devoid of relious themes is just strange.
Okay, now I kind of wish they alluded to that in the modern day New York epilogue of the finale. Maybe when Six mentioned God, have Baltar instead say something like "you know the Count doesn't like being called that."
But Head Six was also possibly a chip in Baltar’s head. Even when no chip could be found, the show never went as far as saying she’s absolutely an angel. RDM doesn’t commit to “God” being God: in interviews he stays with the notion that it’s an entity that doesn’t like the name.
So there is definitely room for hard science if someone chose to speculate in that direction, perhaps chip away at the pseudoscience at least while keeping the characters’ faith intact. What I’m saying is you can give hints that a higher entity is one interpretation without overusing it for day-to-day plot developments AND (I’d imagine) 150,000 years of knowledge transfer, because then it’s deus-ex-machina. Some of that needs to be broken up into more revelations, which is where a new miniseries could come in.
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