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Disco Writer used the N word in the writers room.

Yeah, it DEFINITELY want one of the other black writers complaining...

They very much SAID - verbatim - the complaint was about that word making people "uncomfortable in a working environment". Not insulting. Uncomfortable. When an old black guy said it. If you think that wording came from anyone else than a young, conservative white guy, I've got a whole ton of bridges to sell you.
Wow.
 
You couldn't generate an episode from this contraversy without time travel.

Although what if the universal translator was bleeping out any bad language from local racists on an away mission to Earth's past, who are becoming furious about the censorship.

Oh.

The Good Place already did that, and it was forking amazing.
 

Funny how we have a black man leaving because of a racially hostile environment, and the first thing you did is assume it was another hypothetical black man being at fault for that...

Interesting take.

He doesn't say that anyone complained because he was retelling his own experience of racism by a cop, but because in quoting the cop verbatim he was repeating a particularly ugly racial slur. For all we know it was one of the other African American writers in the writing room who complained about it, not "to shut him down" but because they might have their own ugly experiences with the slur. Or they belong to a subgroup you'll find in every minority group where discussions exist whether slurs can or should be "reclaimed", and fall on the side of thos who don't want these slurs around in any capacity. Compare that to current pushback from some members of the lgbtg community to the term "queer".

As for the whole thing, I wonder if this strong reaction is a direct result of the upheaval around Berg and Harberts. They were verbally abusive to staff to the point that they had to be removed, so it makes sense that the production company might come down quickly on anything even remotely in the ballpark of "hostile" language if it gets reported in to HR. And it's sad that Mosley (who I have only read Devil in A Blue Dress from, since he was prominently featured in a course on crime fiction I once took) decided to leave over that. Especially because how he describes it he wasn't even in any real trouble with HR (as in an actual formal reprimand with documentation and such), and just got a call asking him politely to avoid using that term in the writer's room, which ... isn't a terrible request? People will know what you mean even if you just say "the n-word" and still understand the point of your story.

Yeah.... "wow".
 
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Also, Just for the people trying to pin that on "another" black man:

Walter Mosley specifically quoted the HR guy said: "Mr. Mosley, it has been reported that you used the N-word in the writers’ room.’ he replied, ‘I am the N-word in the writers’ room.’”

Let's take a look at the DIS writers room:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/fullcredits/writer?ref_=m_ttfc_2

The only black writer credited is Alan B. McElroy. Who is also an elderly black man. The only other black writer (Pwer) left 2017. None of the other 26 writers is black, they're overwhelmingly white.

So we have a roomb almost entirely made up of white people getting rid of the only black person for using the "n-word" when he was talking about discrimination.

Yeah. Screw that.
 
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I worked at a warehouse where a white guy got fired for using the N word. He was playing table tennis with a black coworker, things got competitive, then nasty. He shouldn't have used that word to vent his frustration.

I don't think black people should use that word to refer to themselves when they are with white people. It sends the wrong message.
 
Also, Just for the people trying to pin that on "another" black man:

Walter Mosley specifically quoted the HR guy said: "Mr. Mosley, it has been reported that you used the N-word in the writers’ room.’ he replied, ‘I am the N-word in the writers’ room.’”

Let's take a look at the DIS writers room:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/fullcredits/writer?ref_=m_ttfc_2

The only black writer credited is Alan B. McElroy. Who is also an elderly black man. The only other black writer (Pwer) left 2017. None of the other 26 writers is black, and only few brown.

So we have a room entirely made up of white people getting rid of the only black for using the "n-word" when he was taking about discrimination.

Yeah. Fuck that.
You know there are not just writers in the writers room, and it might not even be a "room"?

(The whole time I have been thinking about the writers room from Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.)

Their work zone could be a corner of an office-floor, and their voices carry.

This is so weird.

Black people wouldn't care, and white people are afraid.

A personal grudge makes the the most sense, before we start bringing in other ethnicites and genders.
 
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Funny how some people are using this news as a springboard to go up in arms. People get fired for all sorts of reasons and outsiders seldom know the whole story. I'm afraid the internet gives us too many opportunities to weigh in and rant.
 
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Funny how some people are using this news as a springboard to go up in arms. People get fired for all sorts of reasons and outsiders seldom know the whole story. I'm afraid the internet gives us too many opportunities to weigh in and rant.
The sad part is, Mosley wasn't even fired. He wasn't even officially reprimanded, according to his own retelling of it. He left himself because he didn't like to work in an environment that apparently is willing to put down a zero tolerance policy on the use of a racial slur by anyone, even in a verbatim quote, even by a person this slur could be applied to, if someone else voices concern over it. That's his good right, and it's sad that it came to this. But it was his personal choice to leave over what seems, according how he relayed it, a polite member of HR asking him not to use that slur (even in a quote) anymore in the writer's room.
 
If you think that wording came from anyone else than a young, conservative white guy, I've got a whole ton of bridges to sell you.
As an almost young conservative white guy can we not stereotype here? I've heard everything in the workplace from the n-word, Spanish expletives, and slurs, and various things that I probably can't remember. Not one of those conversations went to HR despite all the "conservative white people" around.

I mean, we live in a world where we need safe places and feeling uncomfortable from words is commonplace. We live in a very reactionary time.
 
Also, Just for the people trying to pin that on "another" black man:

Walter Mosley specifically quoted the HR guy said: "Mr. Mosley, it has been reported that you used the N-word in the writers’ room.’ he replied, ‘I am the N-word in the writers’ room.’”

Let's take a look at the DIS writers room:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5171438/fullcredits/writer?ref_=m_ttfc_2

The only black writer credited is Alan B. McElroy. Who is also an elderly black man. The only other black writer (Pwer) left 2017. None of the other 26 writers is black, they're overwhelmingly white.

So we have a roomb almost entirely made up of white people getting rid of the only black person for using the "n-word" when he was talking about discrimination.

Yeah. Screw that.

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According to this article by The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...k-discovery-using-n-word-writers-room-1237489) :

It's worth noting that Discovery has a particularly inclusive writers room that includes three African American scribes, two Asian American writers, a Native American and Latinx woman, among others.

Also, I can't judge the ethnicity of most of the writers in the link you posted because a lot of them have no pictures, but I do have to wonder looking at the rest of them ... is Brandon Schultz not black enough for you?

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I had an inspiration and went to the twitter by the Discovery writing staff and looked through the pictures to see if they posted a group photo somewhere, which led to me siding with the THR article on the issue after finding this:

https://twitter.com/StarTrekRoom/status/1106043436925227008
 
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Maybe people shouldn't assume at all.

You know there are not just writers in the writers room, and it might not even be a "room"?

(The whole time I have been thinking about the writers room from Studio 60 on the Sunset Street.)

Their work zone could be a corner of an office-floor, and their voices carry.

This is so weird.

Black people wouldn't care, and white people are afraid.

A personal grudge makes the the most sense, before we start bringing in other ethnicites and genders.

You love to generalize don't you?
 
I wonder where and when his story took place.........do people even use the slur "paddy" anymore? I had to Google it.
 
Every story has two sides.

Mosley probably rubbed someone else on the writing staff the wrong way. They probably complained as soon as they could get Mosley on something (regardless of context) and took advantage of a Zero Tolerance Policy that was probably thought up in the Early-2000s (when that was a thing) but was never taken off the books. I'm guessing Mosley left because he didn't appreciate the power play and didn't want to work with people who would go to such lengths, especially if he didn't know (or couldn't prove) who complained and if it didn't look like anyone (or at least the right people) had his back.
 
There are a few options here. One is that we are only hearing one side of the story and actually there was more to it. Another is that a slightly jumpy HR individual overreacted to something minor and this chap then overreacted to that overreaction.

It's possible @Rahul is bang on correct as well. People can be uncomfortable about hearing the real history of racism and would rather it were not discussed in those terms.
 
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