Really curious about the scene you're talking about....
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Really curious about the scene you're talking about....
I wonder how Earth colonized the Firefly system? I envision some sort of fleet of robot, A.I. space arks with frozen biological samples of Human DNA (embryos?) and all other Earth life forms, plus a huge seed bank of plant life. Probably included Earth museums of our greatest works of art and technology. Once a system was found, the ships would start terraforming the first habitable worlds with plant life, then introduce animal life once atmospheric conditions were met. The first reconstituted humans would be raised and educated by robot parents. Them and their descendants become the rich, snobby rulers of the core systems. Shake and bake, add a few of centuries, and we end up with the Firefly 'Verse.
Trust me: you'll know it when you see it.
It's a single star system with multiple stars, each with multiple planets and moons, and lots of terraforming. There are maps.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/1h41j1/complete_map_of_the_verse/
https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/Maps_of_the_'Verse
I recommend any and all coffee table books available on the show. There's one with a series of deck plans and cutaways of the ship, one with maps of the 'verse, a handbook for passengers...
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/1h41j1/complete_map_of_the_verse/
https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/Maps_of_the_'Verse
I recommend any and all coffee table books available on the show. There's one with a series of deck plans and cutaways of the ship, one with maps of the 'verse, a handbook for passengers...
The impression I got is that The Alliance started out in the core planets, and over time the people who didn't agree with the Alliance then spread out towards the edge of the system. We spend the vast majority of the series out on the very edges of the system, which is why everything is so primitive and run down. The few times we do get glimpses of the core planets they are more of the big futuristic sci-fi cities you expect to see in things like Star Trek or The Expanse.
Yeah, the Alliance is basically the only government in existence. Before the war, people on the frontier had their own govt's and didn't have to deal with the Alliance (many of them lived on the frontier specifically to get away from the Alliance, I'm sure) but after the Alliance military broke the Independents army every human settlement was officially unified under Alliance rule. It's just that settlements far enough off the beaten path don't necessarily warrant any permanent Alliance presence, so people at the edge of civilization can still sneak stuff by them (for now).
Ok, ok... I'll go back and watch it and the movie. You've all convinced me. 
The Expanse, particularly the novels, definitely draws a lot from Firefly. You can definitely see parallels between the characters. Mal/Holden, Zoe/Naomi, Jayne/Amos, Wash/Alex, Kaylee/Sam. Hell, I remember many fantasy castings for the characters done up before the series was adapted into a show usually did cast Nathan Fillion as Holden, Gina Torres as Naomi and Adam Baldwin as Amos. I think the most blatant Firefly connection in The Expanse novels is when they actually describe the Martian Navy's warships as "flying office buildings."
The show scaled back dramatically on the Firefly connections, but you can still see some influences here and there.
I made it to another episode which Fox aired out of order. According to Hulu, Shindig is episode 4, even though originally it was the 6th episode aired. I don't remember Mal Rynolds being such an asshole though. Kaylee is looking at the pretty fashion and Mal mocks her for it. That was mean. 
I forgot how much of a badass Gina Torres was as Zoe. When I was watching Angel and that whole Jasmine arc, I kept seeing Jasmine as Zoe and it was a little distracting. I think Zoe was my favorite Firefly Character, with Kaylee coming in second and Wash coming in 3rd.
I forgot how much of a badass Gina Torres was as Zoe. When I was watching Angel and that whole Jasmine arc, I kept seeing Jasmine as Zoe and it was a little distracting. I think Zoe was my favorite Firefly Character, with Kaylee coming in second and Wash coming in 3rd.
^ There's a lot more nuance to Mal giving Kaylee a hard time about her fascination with fancy clothes than might be apparent at first, and as you get further on into the series, you'll come to see that his seeming rudeness is just how he interacts with people and that there's genuine affection in it, especially when it comes to Kaylee.
Yeah. Just watched the episode where he saves Simon and River from being burned at the stake and says to Simon that he's a part of the crew. He is loyal to the crew, which is commendable. Still, he really does act asshole-ish alot, especially in the early episodes.
I've seen Firefly several times, the only scene I can recall you might mean is the engine sucking scene
Being a Joss Whedon show it was automatically on my map back then since i was a big Buffy and Angel fan (Dollhouse was also a cool concept but i kinda lost track in season 2).
So The Train Job when it originally aired was cool but it didn't exactly blow me away. I was not worried though since many shows take some time to take off so i continued watching.
Then at the end came the confrontaion with Ishka's goon and he delivers this typical bad guy "We're gonna catch you" speech and Mal, deadpan, just kicks him into Serenity's engines
Right at that moment it felt like a Joss Whedon show and it only got better since.. it was only 14 episodes (15 if you count the true pilot as two episodes) but it managed to make me deeply care about the crew and i don't know if i ever got this mad and upset when they cancelled it (it still smarts to this day when i think about the lost potential).
Even years later i had friends and colleagues approach me telling me about this awesome show about Space Cowboys in their banged up ship and when i asked for the title i just smiled when they said Firefly (and sometimes this came from people who didn't watch SciFi shows at all).
Back in the day i was truly hardcore.. just stopped shy of actually buying some kind of long brown coat but i had the roleplaying game that came out and we had a blast playing it.. i was the pilot and the first time i injected some "chinese" into my dialogue we were all on the floor laughing so hard
Over the years regularly popped in an episode from time to time and am stil amazed at the cast chemistry and the quality of the writing and acting - if all actors are not beyond Oscar level real life acting levels it also seems they had much fun doing the show and for many it was a kind of breakout role (foremost Nathan Fillion who was alead for the first time) so it was natural that they were bummed out to the extreme when it was cancelled so soon.
Ten years after the cancellation they also had a big Comic Con panel and the fans went nuts.. 10 years after the show ended! There was also a round table filming of most of the actors and the producers talking about the show, their ideas and what it meant to be on the show,
One thing i vividly remember was when the producers talked about a specific scene in the pilot that served as a later plot hook.. in the pilot the crew is chased by a Reaver ship and when it looks like they will be caught we see Inara opening a box that contained a syringe with a fluid inside.
They revealed that this syringe contained a drug that would kill anyone who raped a companion. So in the planned episode that would air sometime in the show's run Inara gets abducted by Reavers and brought onto their ship. The crew manages to enter the ship but only finds dozens of dead Reavers and a brutalized and badly hurt but alive Inara
This was the level the show would have gone to and it was a hallmark of its style.. amidst all the humor and action the show did not shy away from some really heavy stuff.. Mal and Wash being tortured and Zoe making the hard call to rescue Wash because Mal "could take it" is just one example.
So we were deprived of years of insane laughter, awesome action and at least 2-3 heavy gut punches per season.
So The Train Job when it originally aired was cool but it didn't exactly blow me away. I was not worried though since many shows take some time to take off so i continued watching.
Then at the end came the confrontaion with Ishka's goon and he delivers this typical bad guy "We're gonna catch you" speech and Mal, deadpan, just kicks him into Serenity's engines
Right at that moment it felt like a Joss Whedon show and it only got better since.. it was only 14 episodes (15 if you count the true pilot as two episodes) but it managed to make me deeply care about the crew and i don't know if i ever got this mad and upset when they cancelled it (it still smarts to this day when i think about the lost potential).
Even years later i had friends and colleagues approach me telling me about this awesome show about Space Cowboys in their banged up ship and when i asked for the title i just smiled when they said Firefly (and sometimes this came from people who didn't watch SciFi shows at all).
Back in the day i was truly hardcore.. just stopped shy of actually buying some kind of long brown coat but i had the roleplaying game that came out and we had a blast playing it.. i was the pilot and the first time i injected some "chinese" into my dialogue we were all on the floor laughing so hard
Over the years regularly popped in an episode from time to time and am stil amazed at the cast chemistry and the quality of the writing and acting - if all actors are not beyond Oscar level real life acting levels it also seems they had much fun doing the show and for many it was a kind of breakout role (foremost Nathan Fillion who was alead for the first time) so it was natural that they were bummed out to the extreme when it was cancelled so soon.
Ten years after the cancellation they also had a big Comic Con panel and the fans went nuts.. 10 years after the show ended! There was also a round table filming of most of the actors and the producers talking about the show, their ideas and what it meant to be on the show,
One thing i vividly remember was when the producers talked about a specific scene in the pilot that served as a later plot hook.. in the pilot the crew is chased by a Reaver ship and when it looks like they will be caught we see Inara opening a box that contained a syringe with a fluid inside.
They revealed that this syringe contained a drug that would kill anyone who raped a companion. So in the planned episode that would air sometime in the show's run Inara gets abducted by Reavers and brought onto their ship. The crew manages to enter the ship but only finds dozens of dead Reavers and a brutalized and badly hurt but alive Inara
This was the level the show would have gone to and it was a hallmark of its style.. amidst all the humor and action the show did not shy away from some really heavy stuff.. Mal and Wash being tortured and Zoe making the hard call to rescue Wash because Mal "could take it" is just one example.
So we were deprived of years of insane laughter, awesome action and at least 2-3 heavy gut punches per season.
Bingo. I just didn't want to bring it up until OP had officially watched "The Train Job."I've seen Firefly several times, the only scene I can recall you might mean is the engine sucking scene
A good show. Too bad it has such a short run. I remember having conversations with friends about the Alliance and if it was evil (I said no)or a reflection of America doing both great and terrible things at times (I said yes)
One of my favorite episodes.
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going by Hulu order, the last episode I saw was episode 6 (Our Miss Reynolds) last night. I learned right away that a lot of this series was aired out of order, not just Serenity.
Our Mrs. Reynolds is the one that hooked me when it was airing on Fox. And I met a young Christina Hendricks.
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