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Dropped storylines

Prax said:
Dropped storyline:

What happened to Crewman Daniel's super spooky quarters? Did they get blown up? Did Starfleet command get their hands on all that technology? They had this resource that had the schematics for every ship ever made. I think they used it two or three times. Eventually it ceased to exist.
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Presumably, Daniels would've cleared that place up, possibly after the "end" of the TCW in Stormfront.

Or, we could assume a Future's End type scenario, where Starfleet (Section 31?) got ahold of that database, scrubbed it for what information they could, and then changed the timeline by advancing their technology.

I know what you're thinking, and I'm not arguing that there was a reboot (even of the temporal kind, a la 2009). This would be a predestination situation. Starfleet always got a leg up thanks to Daniels and his database. They even "hypothesize" this in Discovery ("time travellers are the reasons for advances in society" paraphrased).

Daniels' database is probably incomplete, mission sensitive, or purposely fabricated.
 
I don't get all the contortions over "Starfleet class of 78”. In the context of the scene, he's telling Riker he went through the Academy just like anyone else. It's easily interpreted as the number of fellow cadets in Data's graduating class.
 
And it’s not like there aren’t more lines that were flat-out mistakes and thus not binding on canon.

Such as Admiral Bennett’s line in DS9’s “Doctor Bashir, I Presume” about Khan being 200 years ago. Obviously this isn’t true on its face, since it would have put Khan in the late 2160’s, and of course that’s BS. No, the writer readily admitted he screwed up (he was thinking about Khan’s lines in TWOK) and thus the line can and will be ignored.

Same story here.
 
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Plus Khan gets it wrong himself in TWOK - "on Earth, two hundred years ago I was a prince..." Right after he says the Botany Bay was launched in 1996.

The Data line isn't a mistake, it was right at the time, it just got retconned into incongruity. But this thread is about dropped stories, not mistakes.

I always wondered what became of Sela. Peter David's Imzadi II shows us where she was after Unification, plus it brings back Tom Riker and deals with the Worf/Troi relationship.
 
I always wanted Sela to be...not actually Tasha’s daughter, maybe a clone.

There was just something about Sela’s attitude towards her mother that didn’t sit right. It sounded like fake Romulan propaganda created for some kind of undercover mission.
 
Khan left Earth in 1996, came back briefly in the 2080s, then again in the 2170s, before being awakened for a third time in 2267.

This why we hear about multiple Eugenics Wars, and how Khan learned about Klingon proverbs. Canon supports this.
 
Tim Thomason said:
Khan left Earth in 1996, came back briefly in the 2080s, then again in the 2170s, before being awakened for a third time in 2267.

This why we hear about multiple Eugenics Wars, and how Khan learned about Klingon proverbs. Canon supports this.
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It's totally at odds with Space Seed though.
 
Maybe he confused the incident with the 80's rock band Supermen of the 2150's for khan
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
I always wanted Sela to be...not actually Tasha’s daughter, maybe a clone.

There was just something about Sela’s attitude towards her mother that didn’t sit right. It sounded like fake Romulan propaganda created for some kind of undercover mission.
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This actually works in context with Nemesis.
 
Tim Thomason said:
Khan left Earth in 1996, came back briefly in the 2080s, then again in the 2170s, before being awakened for a third time in 2267.

This why we hear about multiple Eugenics Wars, and how Khan learned about Klingon proverbs. Canon supports this.
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I always figured he learned that stuff from Marla on those long, lonely nights on Ceti Alpha V. She was an historian after all . . . .
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
I always wanted Sela to be...not actually Tasha’s daughter, maybe a clone.

There was just something about Sela’s attitude towards her mother that didn’t sit right. It sounded like fake Romulan propaganda created for some kind of undercover mission.
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Sela comes back in Plagues of Night/Raise the Dawn, which tie up a lot of DS9 stuff but have a number of larger ramifications as well.
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
I always wanted Sela to be...not actually Tasha’s daughter, maybe a clone.

There was just something about Sela’s attitude towards her mother that didn’t sit right. It sounded like fake Romulan propaganda created for some kind of undercover mission.
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The fact that she looked and sounded exactly like Tasha was another odd one. At least give her black hair maybe.

Shawnster said:
This actually works in context with Nemesis.
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It would have been totally different movie if they used Sela instead. And interesting.

Or have it be a showdown between Ro Laren as a fugitive and Picard who's hunting her down.
 
Jim Kirk's daddy issues. Emphasised again in Star Trek Beyond to set up the planned-but-cancelled 4th movie where Jim meets his father.

Hopefully we get to read a script or story synopsis one day.
 
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Tomalak said:
I'm not sure Denise had the chops to carry a movie. Sela was always a pretty dreadful character with stupid plans anyway.
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Poor Denise. She thought TNG wasn't going anywhere so she left to become a film superstar.

12 months later TNG's star was rising and Denise's was...not rising. Her Wikipedia page is grim reading indeed for someone who did six months on Star Trek in 1987 and left to do greater things. Compare and contrast the length of the 'Star Trek' and 'post Star Trek' sections :guffaw:

But look, it's 2019 and thirty years have passed and it's great to see she's not at all bitter :borg:
 
CuriousCaitian said:
Ah, OK. Interesting! An issue remains, though - why did Q have to shove the Enterprise thousands of light years away to encounter the Borg, when they were already in Federation space, destroying outposts? Doesn't really track. Or maybe I'm missing something. :shrug:
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Because he was testing Picard to see if he'd be willing to back down and admit there were threats the Federation wasn't ready for, and ask for Q's help. If Picard encounters the Borg anywhere near Federation space and realizes the Enterprise can't handle it, he's not going to ask Q for aid, he's gonna call Starfleet since help is just a few hours away.

Q put Picard into a situation with NO chance of backup other than asking him for help.
 
matthunter said:
Because he was testing Picard to see if he'd be willing to back down and admit there were threats the Federation wasn't ready for, and ask for Q's help. If Picard encounters the Borg anywhere near Federation space and realizes the Enterprise can't handle it, he's not going to ask Q for aid, he's gonna call Starfleet since help is just a few hours away.

Q put Picard into a situation with NO chance of backup other than asking him for help.
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Good points, well made. :)
 
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