Unforgivable Trek errors by writers..

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  1. Prax

    Prax Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    If a 365 day year is 1000 stardates, then 100 is 36.5 days. About a month or 5 weeks.
     
  2. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    According to Stardate Calculator which is used by Pocket Books to determine stardates for the novels, the episode The Jem'Hadar's stardate of 47987.5 is December 27, 2370, The Search's 48213.1 is March 19, 2371 and Caretaker's 48315.6 is April 26, 2371. So Voyager was lost the day before the four month anniversary of the Federation making contact with the Dominion, and five weeks after Sisko's mission to meet the Founders.
     
  3. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Commodore Commodore

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    Voyager disappeared on 48307.5, but stardate calculations are pointless either way; we can only speculate that it really was a bit later as suggested by the raw numbers.
     
  4. Discofan

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    Speaking of disappearing, whatever happened to the Borg baby in Collective? Seems like a major writer snafu!!!
     
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  5. Kor

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    The Cardassian Union inexplicably being changed to the "Cardassian Empire." As if the galaxy doesn't have enough empires already.
    Memory Alpha quotes Brannon Braga on this very matter:
    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Collective_(episode)#Background_information
    Of course, because it's never stated on-screen, that can't actually be considered "cannnnon."

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  6. Tenacity

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    Data said the silo was part of a missile complex, so the main base facilities would be a dozen odd miles away down a access road. If America wasn't apart of the war, then it wouldn't be "post-apocalyptic."
     
  7. Gabriel

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    Yes. I always had a problem with that line. I mean for Pete’s sake his crew saved earth I would think they’ll be living up to the finest tradition to Starfleet the 23rd or 24th century. And they did that while knowing possibly they could still be sent to jail.
     
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  8. Prax

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    She meant it endearingly. She's speaking of the past with rose-colored glasses, and a subordinate asks her how they could just get away with disobeying orders like that. Choices that could lead to major diplomatic incidents and war. It's an honest question. Janeway basically says "It was the good ol' days. Things are different now"
     
  9. Paul Weaver

    Paul Weaver Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    How does Janeway explain not being sent to jail or at least booted out of starfleet after her 7 years?
     
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  10. Discofan

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    Tom is guilty of mutiny and trying to blow up an installation on an alien planet... Michael got a lifetime in jail for less than that!!
     
  11. Kor

    Kor Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    She got booted up to the Admirals' offices where she could fly a desk instead of a ship, and not do any more damage out in the field.

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  12. Paul Weaver

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    Trek is littered with corrupt and incompetent Admirals so it fits starfleet MO.

    Hence Kirk's reward for doing something good (saving Earth from the whale probe) was to undemote him from Admiral.
     
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  13. Discofan

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    I say they put her in some psychiatric ward and replaced her with an android.
     
  14. Prax

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    In terms of Starfleet's mission; exploration, first contact, establishing trade deals, charting unknown space, and all that goes with that, etc, is there any captain more successful than Janeway? It's no wonder she got promoted. Why would she be in jail?
     
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  15. Kor

    Kor Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Kirk himself was the typical power-mad, incompetent Admiral in TMP, what with the way he booted Decker out of the big chair and took command himself despite being unfamiliar with the workings of the extensively upgraded ship.

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  16. Discofan

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    Yeah, but Kirk had a talent for... speaking to powerful entities and talking them out of killing him and his crew. I mean who would have thought about saying "Hey, I know the answer to your question but I won't tell it until you do as I say"?
    to a powerful entity that could wipe him out in an instant!

    Only Kirk.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    It's funny how in any other film Kirk's character would have been the villain of the film.
     
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  18. Discofan

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    He was the villain in these films, he just failed his objective of destroying the Federation each time.
     
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  19. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Ah, so he's incompetent. Definitely fits with Starfleet admirals then.
     
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  20. Discofan

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    With a little grain of salt, yes.;)