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Unforgivable Trek errors by writers..

And the same alien who did the impregnating also became the baby inside her. There were only two people involved - Deanna, and the child she grew to love as her own.
 
My take on that was that Scotty quoted estimates by the book, but knew all of the time-saving shortcuts.
That I'm fine with, because it translates to the same thing: Scotty being really, really good at his job. That line in "Relics" just made him out to be a talented BS artist.
 
Is there really an unforgivable "error"? Unforgivable is like if someone kills your wife.
 
1.)Making Worf and Troi a couple during season 7 was a writer's error.

2.)On DS9 I thought the writers relied too much on soap opera tripes to maintain a supply of stories for the characters. Case in point: Odo's romantic feelings Kira and their subsequent relationship. I never really bought it.

3.) Making Bashir genetically engineered is another example of the aforementioned.

4.) Gul Dukat and The Pah Wraiths. No explanation necessary.
 
I thought the Pah Wraiths added to Dukat been the 'Anti-Sisko' since Sisko is the prophets emissary.
 
I thought the Pah Wraiths added to Dukat been the 'Anti-Sisko' since Sisko is the prophets emissary.
It works in that sense and Marc Alaimo was fantastic but it's such a stretch from where the character began. It always felt like an overreaction on the producer's part, who didn't like how Marc Alaimo interpreted the part.
 
They thought viewers "liked" Dukat too much so they took away all subtlety and made him outwardly eeeevvvil. This began in "Waltz."

Huh? To me that is one of DS9s finest episodes. It truly showed how much Dukat had slipped into insanity. Plus I loved the way he tried to justify himself.
 
It's a fact. I'm not talking about him going insane. You could say the Pah Wraith stuff is part of that too. I'm talking about his outwardly genocidal intent revealed in that episode. Ira Behr was concerned about Dukat's popularity with audiences and wanted to make him more visibly/outwardly evil
 
Up until Waltz he was bad, but it was always a shade of grey, you could see things from a different perspective.

Waltz turned him into a pantomime villain
 
I thought what happened to him in WALTZ onward was a natural progression of him from what we have seen before.

Dukat is a megalomaniac. He had to be the center of everything, and everyone had to bow to his brilliance... his generosity... his greatness. His conversation with Weyoun about how you have to make your enemy see they were wrong to oppose in the first place was one of the most telling things about how he thinks and what he is. In his mind, he was villified by the galaxy unfairly. The Pah-Wraiths choosing him as their emissary in the end was a logical step because he is a mirror of how they are.

Just as it was logical to have Sisko end up being part Prophet. The audience always views the captains as a sort of godly figure in their eyes. In this case, Behr just made it literal. Dukat, in a way, felt he should be a god to people. It did sort of wade the pool of fantasy realm, but I thought it worked.
 
I loved First Contact when it first came out, but as time goes by I have more and more problems with many of the things it did, including:
  1. Having the first warp engine be something that was cobbled together out of spare parts in a post-apocalyptic rural village. For money, apparently? Humanity has bombed itself back to the 19th century; who has the industrial base to put a warp-drive spaceship engine into production? And what would they even do with it? It doesn't make any sense; it's a case of Berman-era Trek writers trying to fill in a long-standing blank space in Star Trek continuity in the dumbest way possible.
  2. Radically changing the premise of The Next Generation from a group of explorers on a ship of peace to a group of soldiers on a warship. I'm not one of those people who claims to be able to read Gene Roddenberry's mind from beyond the grave, and as far as I'm concerned he almost never had a good idea after 1973 or so, but it's 100% opposed to everything Gene was trying to say with TNG and if he'd been alive he would have fought tooth and nail against it.
And as much as I loved DS9, the way they eventually boiled Sisko's entire journey down to it being his destiny to throw the Bajoran Necronomicon off a cliff to defeat cave-dwelling evil spirits was stupid stupid STUPID. This was supposed to be Star Trek, not some two-bit swords-and-sorcery show on UPN.
 
I wasn't as concerned about the first warp engine -- the bulk of the work could have been done before the war, it doesn't follow from FC that Cochrane built the engine only in the previous few years.

Indeed several trek books show glimpses into this idea.
 
1. Having the first warp engine be something that was cobbled together out of spare parts in a post-apocalyptic rural village. For money, apparently? Humanity has bombed itself back to the 19th century; who has the industrial base to put a warp-drive spaceship engine into production? And what would they even do with it? It doesn't make any sense; it's a case of Berman-era Trek writers trying to fill in a long-standing blank space in Star Trek continuity in the dumbest way possible.
Humanity still had an industrial and technological base.
It's just that a lot more places suffered from bombing raids.
 
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