Comics during relaunch timelines

[Centaur2000]

I'd like to know which comics take place during the relaunch timelines of the 24th century series?
I just know of the DS9 comics "N-Vector" and "Devided We Fall".
Thanks for your help.

 

[Christopher]

The TNG: Perchance to Dream miniseries was standalone when it came out, I think, but it was later referenced in the novels. I think the Alien Spotlight: Cardassians one-shot issue was meant to be consistent with the DS9 novel continuity.

There were a couple of New Frontier comics (one Wildstorm, one IDW) at least nominally in the novel continuity (I think one of them had some conflicts), but that's not in connection with any particular "relaunch." Other than that, the only comics I can think of that are set in the novel continuity are a couple of IDW one-shots by Keith R.A. DeCandido, Alien Spotlight: Klingons and Captain's Log: Jellico.

 

[ryan123450]

There’s also The Gorn Crisis which was referenced in several novels I believe.

And if you consider the origin of Pava from the Titan novels in the Starfleet Academy comic, then you get dozens of Marvel era comics all sharing references to one another.

Malibu’s Blood and Honor was referenced in the first Prometheus novel.

There are more depending on how you define your terms. Peruse my website. www.startreklitverse.com

@Christopher what is the Lit link to the Jellico comic? I may have never read that one.

 

[8of5]

Alien Spotlight: Andorians is set in the TNG TV era, but makes use of the novel's version of Andorian genders.

Out of continuity with the novels, the Borg focused series Hive features the USS Titan, and showed us Christine Vale (not actually named in the text though I think).

More tangentially, IDW adopted the Myriad Universe banner to release an alternate reality TNG series, The Last Generation.

 

[Leto_II]

The most recent Waypoint one-shot special gave us a DS9 tale supposedly set during the height of the post-Destiny Andorian secession-crisis (from Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony onwards), but there were some real weird discontinuities present, like Ezri Dax still only holding the rank of Lieutenant (or something), and not in command of the Aventine.

 

[Tosk]

Considering how little detail there is in the short story regarding the Andorian fracas, wouldn't it be easier to assume that it isn't tied to the novels at all, and is a different crisis?

 

[JoeZhang]

The most recent Waypoint one-shot special gave us a DS9 tale supposedly set during the height of the post-Destiny Andorian secession-crisis (from Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony onwards), but there were some real weird discontinuities present, like Ezri Dax still only holding the rank of Lieutenant (or something), and not in command of the Aventine.

I can see how people think and maybe it is confirmed in an interview but the story itself doesn't say that - it suggests there is strife on Andoria but also say the base where the conflict is happening is in 'The Neutral Zone' and there is a straight up work referred to a the 'Androian conflict' and a 'war'. It could be the secession crisis or it could be a war between the Federation and Andoria. Similarly, the characters note that "You'd think the andorians would want us to have a medical centre in the neutral zone" so it could a war with someone else the federation is caught in - it's really not clear.

The waypoint series has a few tales that don't fit either with actual canon nor the novels - for example, a Georgi and Data story that ignores completely Nemesis.

 

[Christopher]

There’s also The Gorn Crisis which was referenced in several novels I believe.

My intent was to count comics that had been intended all along to be in the novel continuity rather than folded into it after the fact, but in that case I probably shouldn't have counted Perchance to Dream. If we're going there, then Klingons: Blood Will Tell also counts, since it's been referenced in some of the novels.

And if you consider the origin of Pava from the Titan novels in the Starfleet Academy comic, then you get dozens of Marvel era comics all sharing references to one another.

Sharing a character isn't necessarily the same thing as sharing continuity, since there can be different versions of the same character (e.g. Harley Quinn or Phil Coulson). The Pava in Titan is based on the one in SA, but there are differences (for instance, her name is changed to fit the novels' Andorian naming convention).

A few other comics-original characters have also made the transition to novels, like DS9's Etana Kol and Krissten Richter.

@Christopher what is the Lit link to the Jellico comic? I may have never read that one.

On second thought, I'm not sure there is an explicit link. Memory Beta says that the "Lieutenant Honigsberg" who appears in it as an engineer is the same character as the Alexander Honigsberg referenced as Voyager's original chief engineer in a couple of KRAD's prose works, and reputedly in the Caretaker novelization, though that might be a case of Memory Beta conflating a named character in KRAD's works with a nameless one in the novelization. But the character is a gender-swapped Tuckerization of a friend of Keith's, so it might not have been intended to be the same person in-universe. Only Keith could say for sure.

More tangentially, IDW adopted the Myriad Universe banner to release an alternate reality TNG series, The Last Generation.

Although it didn't quite fit with the prose Myriad Universes works ("myriad" means "uncountably many," so it's very, very plural), since those were spontaneously occurring alternate realities while the comic was one created by time travel.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Alien Spotlight: Andorians is set in the TNG TV era, but makes use of the novel's version of Andorian genders.

Yep. I corresponded with the author and he said he enjoyed the opportunity to pull in numerous factoids from the novels.

The waypoint series has a few tales that don't fit either with actual canon nor the novels...

And a "What if...?" style "Phase II" story with Xon, and appearances by Decker and Ilia.

 

[Extrocomp]

Alien Spotlight: Andorians is set in the TNG TV era, but makes use of the novel's version of Andorian genders.

Not true. Here's a quote from the comic:

Speaking of marriage, when are you and Thrynn going to hunt up another pairing and get married yourselves, Ortees?

That seems to imply that an Andorian marriage is just a combination of two male-female pairings instead of one of each gender.

 

[Christopher]

Not true.

I guess you missed the post above yours where Therin said that the comic's own author had confirmed it was true.

Here's a quote from the comic:

Speaking of marriage, when are you and Thrynn going to hunt up another pairing and get married yourselves, Ortees?

That seems to imply that an Andorian marriage is just a combination of two male-female pairings instead of one of each gender.

I don't think it implies that. It just says "pairing," with no mention of gender.

 

[Stevil2001]

Aren't shelthreth arranged, though? And relationships outside of them frowned upon? I don't think one pair hunting down another is very compatible with the spirit of what the novels have established, even if I'm sure one could rules-lawyer it into being so.

 

[Christopher]

Aren't shelthreth arranged, though? And relationships outside of them frowned upon? I don't think one pair hunting down another is very compatible with the spirit of what the novels have established, even if I'm sure one could rules-lawyer it into being so.

It's a whole planet with billions of people. Any general pattern is going to have localized exceptions. Let's not fall into the "Planet of Hats" trap of stereotyping aliens and assuming every single member of a species has exactly the same personality, culture, values, etc.

Heck, right here and now in the US, there's a growing acceptance of polyamory and open relationships to a degree that would've been shocking and unimaginable a generation or two ago. Attitudes change from group to group and era to era. Granted, "The Old Ways" is set in 2370, only a handful of years before the DS9 novels' arc, but maybe the characters there are holding onto an older, looser attitude about marriage that's largely given way to a more conservative view by the 2370s-80s as the reproductive crisis has become more serious.

 

[Stevil2001]

When I said:

I'm sure one could rules-lawyer it into being so.

...this is exactly what I was attempting to head off:

It's a whole planet with billions of people. Any general pattern is going to have localized exceptions. Let's not fall into the "Planet of Hats" trap of stereotyping aliens and assuming every single member of a species has exactly the same personality, culture, values, etc.

Heck, right here and now in the US, there's a growing acceptance of polyamory and open relationships to a degree that would've been shocking and unimaginable a generation or two ago. Attitudes change from group to group and era to era. Granted, "The Old Ways" is set in 2370, only a handful of years before the DS9 novels' arc, but maybe the characters there are holding onto an older, looser attitude about marriage that's largely given way to a more conservative view by the 2370s-80s as the reproductive crisis has become more serious.

I'm just saying that as a reference goes, it's pretty flimsy if it references exactly none of the substance of the referenced text. Yes, you can invent an explanation, but it doesn't seem like much of a reference if you have to come up with a two-paragraph explanation of how it could be a reference.

 

[Christopher]

Look, nobody's claiming it's a detailed reference. On the page, yes, it's ambiguous. But Therin says the author confirmed it was meant as a nod to the novels, so you're arguing with the author now, or else with Therin.

 

[Therin of Andor]

That seems to imply that an Andorian marriage is just a combination of two male-female pairings instead of one of each gender.

Two Andorian sexes are outwardly feminine or androgynous. The other two are outwardly masculine or androgynous. I see no incompatibility.

Aren't shelthreth arranged, though? And relationships outside of them frowned upon?

The first shelthreth is usually arranged, but we have seen examples of Andorians in various pairings (Chekov and Themon, Marvel comic), the relationship described in "The Sound of Her Voice" (DS9), and where a group of three bring in a fourth of their own selection (Shar in the DS9 novels, Shran in the ENT novels).

 

[JD]

I've always been a bit disappointed Divided We Fall is the only Relaunch comic we've gotten. I would especially love to see, SCE, Titan, or Vanguard comics.