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incorrect.
wont even go into 1954..

Those were not reboots, as both were standalone, independent productions having nothing to do with the EON series. Casino Royale was merely Charles K. Feldman's spoof released at the same time the official series film, You Only Live Twice (1967). Never Say Never Again was the result of the McClory legal issues, and again, it was a standalone film--also released the same year as the then-latest chapter in the ongoing, official series, Octopussy (1983). In other words, the films in question did not reboot anything.
 
Those were not reboots, as both were standalone, independent productions having nothing to do with the EON series. Casino Royale was merely Charles K. Feldman's spoof released at the same time the official series film, You Only Live Twice (1967). Never Say Never Again was the result of the McClory legal issues, and again, it was a standalone film--also released the same year as the then-latest chapter in the ongoing, official series, Octopussy (1983). In other words, the films in question did not reboot anything.

Which I believe is why the EON films are the only ones that can use ‘James bond oo7’ as it has the copyright. Which gets us back to the new oo7 Who isn’t the new James Bond oo7.
 
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Those were not reboots, as both were standalone, independent productions having nothing to do with the EON series. Casino Royale was merely Charles K. Feldman's spoof released at the same time the official series film, You Only Live Twice (1967). Never Say Never Again was the result of the McClory legal issues, and again, it was a standalone film--also released the same year as the then-latest chapter in the ongoing, official series, Octopussy (1983). In other words, the films in question did not reboot anything.
In regards to NSNA, there was a small possibility at the time that McClory could have (obviously he wanted to) develop a series of films from it, so while it might not be a successful reboot, it was an abortive attempt.
 
In regards to NSNA, there was a small possibility at the time that McClory could have (obviously he wanted to) develop a series of films from it, so while it might not be a successful reboot, it was an abortive attempt.

Wonder if he made any money off of the American Express ads and later Jonny English.
 
So, the things that provide continuity in earlier Bonds do not for Craig’s Bond. I mean I just don’t think that reboot stuck. M is clearly the exact same M, and while we can squint and go ‘yeah it’s a reboot’ it all sort of goes out the window in Skyfall, and Craig is just the same sliding continuity again, except now there’s a new Blofeld. But that’s ok, because last time there was a reboot (GoldenEye) he probably slipped off the table cloth of continuity as it slid.
GoldenEye was even more of a reboot, behind the scenes, than Casino Royale. There’s either more than one reboot or none, so far as I can tell by your sensible reasoning for it.
I am not disputing the logic or heart of your argument about Royale being a reboot, but essentially...it’s not the only one, and it pretty swiftly slips back into its comy sliding continuity comfy shoes.
His criteria for whether something or not is a reboot is whether or not the writers announced it to be such. The rest of us use common sense.
 
His criteria for whether something or not is a reboot is whether or not the writers announced it to be such. The rest of us use common sense.

I am fairly sure GoldenEye was announced in very similar terms, but the term reboot wasn’t exactly common currency back then. There were probably words like ‘refresh’ or ‘a new direction’ and almost certainly ‘a new bond for the current day’ or something along those lines.
The majority of behind the scenes influences changed in many ways at that point too, switching over to what we may think of as the current EON team. Though David Arnold hadn’t shown up yet. GoldenEye and Casino Royale even had the same director I think.
 
Why so much talk about canon? Everyone knows canon only matters in Trek! If this going to start mattering then I got to ask. Would James Bond have killed Tuvix?:) Jason
 
Which I believe is why the EON films are the only ones that can use ‘James bond oo7’ as it has the copyright. Which gets us back to the new oo7 Who isn’t the new James Bond oo7.
Pardon me for derailing the thread and for being thick, but why do you type 007 as oo7? Is it a stylistic thing?
 
The entire Felix Leiter getting nommed, and the drugs plot is from Live and Let Die. Word for word practically. (Source: it’s one of about three Fleming novels I have read, have a terribly dated looking ex-library paperback somewhere.) Milton Krest is from the Hildebrandt Rarity.
GoldenEye is the first to contain literally nothing. I have a feeling even Quantum of Solace got its title from a Fleming short.

Edit: to clarify, the wedding and nomming, obviously not the Mexican drugs stuff...just general drug dealing stuff.

Yeah, sorry, you're totally right about LtK, I somehow managed to forget about the Felix Leiter bit. My bad.

Oh and...Brosnans DB5 wasn’t the same one as Connery...different license plate and gadgets. The skyfall one was the Connery model down to the number plate. For once I googled that earlier today to make sure I wasn’t misremembering.

Brosnan didn't actually use any of the DB5 gadgets on-screen, and as for the licence plate, well ...
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Pardon me for derailing the thread and for being thick, but why do you type 007 as oo7? Is it a stylistic thing?

Yup. When I remember. Because it’s double oh seven when spoken after all. I am not the only one I suspect xD
 
Yeah, sorry, you're totally right about LtK, I somehow managed to forget about the Felix Leiter bit. My bad.



Brosnan didn't actually use any of the DB5 gadgets on-screen, and as for the licence plate, well ...
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Lol. It wasn’t any of those either.
 
Lol. It wasn’t any of those either.
Then again, wouldn't they change the licence plates every now and then, anyway, in order for him to still fly under the radar?!

Raymond Benson's novelization of GoldenEye actually established that Bond bought the DB5 from the MI6 as his private car.
 
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