Did I wake up in the 1950s this morning?
News Lashana Lynch to be the new 007...
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I just hope Cary Fukunaga is more sensible than Sam Mendes, and ensures Lynch doesn't sport a giant afro like Moneypenny in Skyfall:
I don't care what gender or ethnicity the field agent in question is; even apart from visibility issues, I'd think that that much hair would be a serious liability in combat. Why give your opponents a big ol' target on your head to easily grab, thereby causing you intense pain? Bond acted moronically a dozen times in the course of that movie, but at least he had a sensible haircut for fighting:
So, for that matter, did Jinx:
All I know is that after walking out of Skyfall and witnessing Silva's (who's got quite the hairdo himself) ridiculously labyrinthine evil plan in its entirety, I too was totally taken out of the film by Moneypenny's grossly unrealistic spy hair and how it contrasted with more conventional spy features like bladed bowler hats, assassins with steel teeth, wheelie-popping semi-trucks, parasailing ice tsunamis, and every film's plot actually being part of the next film's even larger and more nefarious secret organization's plot.You've never seen an afro, giant or otherwise, have you?
This is a great idea and I loved Lashana Lynch in Captain Marvel. I've always wanted to see more of the other 00 agents, and aside from the traitorous turn in GoldenEye, I don't think we've seen much development for them so it'll be fun to see that now (I haven't seen the aforementioned Octopussy so I don't know how large 009's role was before his death).
I think it was Skyfall that showed Bond was his birth name.
He was running in a clown suit for a minute before being throwing knifed to death by circus folk / mercenaries, falling in a river, and then dying at the British Embassy.
The circus folk had just watched It, so it was ruled a justifiable homicide.
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Need to practice my Incel jokes.
Pathetic loser living in parents basement who blames feminism when he can’t get a date.
“Bro Flake”, I like that one.
Pathetic loser living in parents basement who blames feminism when he can’t get a date.
“Bro Flake”, I like that one.
Jason puts a great deal of energy into rather off-center and unexpected - if also naive and frequently silly - lines of reasoning. For those reasons he - and Guy Gardner - are among my favorite posters on this board, though I've noticed that they irritate many. They are off-the-wall and show malice toward no one.
Certainly I've never seen either construct as ill-conceived, unjustifiable or trivial a line of "reasoning" as that nonsensical essay about Moneypenny's hair.
I prefer Rebecca Ferguson in her two Mission Impossible appearances. She was a peer but she operated in a way that made sense specifically for a female agent.
I think that had more to do with the use of the term 'colored'. As for the idea of James Bond being a code name, that was actually the concept of the 60s "Casino Royale", which was a parody. The novels as well as the movie series established on several occasions that James Bond is the character's real name.
I have no problem with the codename going to a new agent, but I'd thought that maybe M16 would retire the codename when he retired due to his long service. But I guess in terms of making a movie they wouldn't do that due to branding issues.
And maybe I'm mis-remembering, but didn't this sort of already happen in QoS where he had to be pulled back into the service?
And maybe I'm mis-remembering, but didn't this sort of already happen in QoS where he had to be pulled back into the service?
There is no non-outraged side. The non-outraged side is outraged--over the outrage. The social-network drama surrounding all this has become the actual entertainment. The "art" in question serves no purpose otherwise.
I do find it sad and strange to hear trek nerds accuse others of being basement dwelling incels, though, considering the history of Trek fandom as filled with misfits. I take it (thanks to JJ and Kurtzman) all current Trek fans are normies who were the cool-kids in school and therefore don't have any understanding or concern for nerd-dom? Or are they just rank hypocrites who want to punch downward?
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"Have you ever kissed a girl?"
Ok, I have never seen the 60s "Casino Royale" and I didn't mean anything offensive with colored but couldn't think of another word for it at the time I wrote It (stupid English
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He might yet get the role. The James Bond franchise is unlikely to continue without the character of James Bond in the mix and Craig was skeptical about being in this one, much less another. All that it means as far as this film is concerned is that we are seeing a situation for at least a portion of the film where the 007 codename is held by another agent. The fact she is black and female would, I suspect, have caused less controversy twenty years ago.
After all we've seen Moneypenny, M and Felix Leiter change colour or gender with minimal outrage, so the idea that Bond might eventually retire and be replaced by someone who didn't happen to be yet another 30 something white male ex naval/special forces womaniser with a Scottish/Australian/English accent and brown hair (or possibly ginger, depending on the dye Roger Moore was using at the time) doesn't seem too ridiculous.
Equally the idea that the character of Bond himself might be black hardly seems that much of a stretch, his backstory has been re written several times to accommodate idiosyncrasies of the actors (not least the fact Connery has precisely one accent) and not one has remotely looked like the character in the books anyway (very much like Hoagy Carmichael but with a prominent scar down his cheek - Timothy Dalton was arguably the closest).
Obviously the headlines are intended as click bait but the basic premise of Bond retiring and/or going rogue is hardy new, nor is the idea of switching him up.
I am aware of that, but 007 AND James Bond are so connected, that I would prefer it if she was a different 00, to really set it apart. Otherwise it still feels gimmicky to me.
The Craig movies have all been massive improvements over the programmed crap that the franchise had ground out for decades.
Sadly, they had all the right ingredients in the right quantities in Casino Royale and they've failed to replicate that.
The telling part for me in CR was when Bond comforted Vesper in the shower. It has heart that has been hard to find in the franchise, an actor that could carry both physicality and humanity, and a story that worked brilliantly.
It's too easy to lay the problems with the following movies entirely on the lack of a Fleming plot (although that is part of it) but CR was lightening in a bottle. Probably my favourite Bond movie, and certainly the best since the 1960's.
Great theme song too.
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