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Ranking the Episodes of Season Five

Which was the best episode of season five?

  • I Borg

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  • Unification I

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  • Unification II

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  • Time's Arrow I

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  • Redemption II

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  • Power Play

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  • Silicon Avatar

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  • Ethics

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  • A Matter of Time

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  • The Perfect Mate

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  • New Ground

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  • Violations

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  • Masterpiece Society

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  • Imaginary Friend

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  • The Cost of Living

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  • The Outcast

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  • Three Days of the Terminator: Lost in Chinatown

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  • Total voters
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Spirit of 73

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Season Five Review

This is the season that most fans point to as TNG's best. While I am a heretic on a couple of the more popular episodes, I still think season five was quite strong. Here are my rankings:

The Ugly
The Outcast

The Bad
The Cost of Living
Imaginary Friend
Masterpiece Society
Violations

The Meh
New Ground
Hero Worship

The Decent
The Perfect Mate
A Matter of Time
Ethics
Silicon Avatar
Power Play

The Good
Ensign Ro
The Game
Darmok
Disaster
Conundrum
Redemption II
Time's Arrow I

The Really Good
The Next Phase
The First Duty
Unification
The Inner Light

The Excellent
I Borg
Cause and Effect

What say you all?
 
My bad I voted for Hero Worship instead of The Inner Light. :lol: Not much of a difference.

Excellent
The Inner Light
I, Borg
The First Duty
Darmok
Cause and Effect

Good
Ethics
The Next Phase
Redemption, Part II
Ensign Ro
Unification, Part One
Conundrum
Disaster

Average
The Perfect Mate
Unification, Part Two
Power Play
The Game
New Ground
Times Arrow, Part One
Silicon Avatar
A Matter of Time
Violations

Mediocre
Hero Worship
The Masterpiece Society
The Outcast

Poor
Imaginary Friend
Cost of Living
 
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(not always in order within section)

The Downright Awful
The Masterpiece Society - the season set a new standard for utterly contrived and one-sided preaching, but this one takes the cake and is the absolute nadir

Ethics - Was this one really to be a Crusher/Pulaski grudge match? On top of the cringe and contrivances, it's an exceedingly poor episode.

I Borg - Guinan's epiphany just wasn't convincing enough in terms of being the one to convince Picard to de-collectivize them, never mind even remotely that quickly. Given how the Borg were written, that's a tad harder to accomplish with any credibility. Janeway's deal in "Scorpion" isn't anywhere near as level of cringe as this episode is, though I recall Hugh was referenced along with Picard/Locutus in that story as well - proving and reminding a meh or even bad story can have a positive influence later on. But, yeah, they should have kept the Borg communication signals shielded, send the Pi calculator source code to the Borg to keep them busy forever, and deprogram Hugh. In other words, was Guinan's character's misuse more detrimental to the series since what she brought into the proceedings created the mess of psychotic maniacs tuned by Lore - seems not unfair, given Guinan was fingering Picard for the blame of Sela's creation... then again, how many years had gone by since Guinan's experience and noting Locutus became de-cybertized, maybe it was her way... yet with that in place it would still make more sense to get Hugh out of there and have TNG become "The Third of Five, Hugh See" show. But then Data would be bored as Picard would then teach Hugh all about humanity... (7/Janeway was a lot more effective with that anyway - yet again, even TNG's foibles did get tightened up and made far better in the spinoffs.)

Hero Worship - just cringey

Unification - Oh look, it's sweeps week for Spock! Part 1 is dreadully over-padded! Spock is underused! Worf signs! Spock is misused! Picard looks like he doesn't want to be there! Data stares! Is the space bar a prelude to the dank, semi-cyberpunk and expanded universe feel that Babylon 5 and DS9 had? Sela is given F- scripting, reduced to a villain so cringe'n'cardboard(tm) she wouldn't even be in a TOS story! Denise did a lot with what was on paper but given Sela's origin, which is A+, this treatment of her is so undeserved. At least Spock didn't sing.

The Ugly

Silicon Avatar - It earns three awards! One for foreshadowing of the dire "I Borg", another from diving into the well of small universe synrtome, and the third for being sufficiently preachy... A similar plot thread regarding "we can reason with the uber-evil that has already said it won't via their unprovoked attacks!!!11!!!!!1" And I'm sure the hawtie of the week being instantly vaporized is less cruel than enduring a lifetime of Riker's Space Warts(tm). Actually, most wars don't end with extinction so usually conflicts can have positive outcomes, so I just gave the silicon creature a positive spin, and it wasn't hostile - just hungry. But in real life, deal with a hungry tiger that isn't sentient and it'll be more inclined to lunge at brunch anyway.

The Outcast - I had no idea that test tube babies versus messy flinging of DNA was sooooo controversial. And yet it is not the dumbest episode of this season, there are five worse. (Yes, I know the claim of the episode, but I'd write a book railing on the piece and unlike most I'm not an outsider and have lived what the episode was claimed by the makers what the discussion topic was. But the way it was scripted and filmed, it's about test tube babies and genetic manipulation. That's almost a compliment since it WOULD be the worst episode by far if it didn't allow for multiple perceptions, the way so many season 5 episodes devolved to. )

The Meh
Cost of Living - what's this one about? Oh, it's a mildly tampered edition of "Hollow Pursuits". And, shh, don't let the Romulans or Borg get ahold of the logs discussing how the nitrius deeplothole parasirte from the asteroid had gotten through the shields and deflectors since when we explode asteroids and a big explosion of material bursts forward in the direction of the ship, there's no way we'd have those deactivated. In theory...

New Ground - that's where Alexander comes on board with cliche after cliche and everything's 90% okay at the end?

Disaster - DS9 did the episode a favor with "Starship Down", this one is just a disaster and the science guy was busy as it's usually better to exhale completely before removing the pressure and atmosphere. At least the Ro scenes were interesting

The Perfect Mate - was this one meant for Kirk?

Time's Arrow I - originality for doing something different but something doesn't feel quite right

The Decent
Imaginary Friend - kids would like it, they can relate to kids with imaginary friends. Actually, it wasn't half-bad that, on a ship with kids, a typical Trek incorporeal being bodysnatches a kid to learn how the humans work. The alien's natural form must be similar to a Chlamydoselachus anguineus since the show had more or less jumped the shark by this season despite the number of good entries...

Darmok - fairly decent but using a real alien language instead of "English structure chucked into daiquiri blender" might have been more interesting. Troi had a similar speech that was handled better in "The Ensigns of Command", too.

The Inner Light - very decent, novel, but the ending features only one pez dispenser dispensing one flute and then it shuts off? The species would want to tell everyone in the universe, not just seek out one being - Picard, no less, given how he treated his own fellow shipmates in that 1996 movie... should have found Janeway instead...

The First Duty - Wesley may have been made more realistic since season 2 but this is a remarkable shift. He comes back in season 7 where, given "Lower Ranks" and Picard somehow getting another one from the group onto his flagship, he would no doubt wish he could become Locutus again the way he'd get all these assignments... it's still a gripping and entertaining piece but it's not exactly new that characters get altered to fit story narrative instead of making stories that fit around characters as they were crafted to be... then again, I appreciate Chekov being more serious in "The Way to Eden" compared to his campy caricature from season 2 so what do I know... apart from that changing characters can be for the better if done right. Wes got that in season 2. Now he's a rug for Farmer Brown (first name Charlie, good grief) to clean his boots with...

Redemption II - I wish the tachyon field was more 3D - I just accept it as "their fuel supplies make it disadvantageous to go around". Data's subplot is still pure forced cringe and laughably unbelievable.

The Good
Power Play - cheezy music dragging down the show aside, it's a great action piece that's perfectly suited to TNG

Ensign Ro - loved her introduction, love the character

A Matter of Time - needed Robin Williams, who would have stolen the show

Violations - very creepy but it works

The Game - probably made to sell the feel what other season 1's stories might be like if made four years later, and wasn't too much ahead of its time as portable video game players were already being used too much

Conundrum - reuse of Edo ship aside, this is one of season 5's better entries

The Excellent
The Next Phase - a great high concept piece, it has the audience focused on enough ideas and discussion to get around obvious plot holes. A good story makes the plot holes easier to roll with. And I'm a sucker for robust philosophical stories, which this story rightly pays attention to. As well as reminding us of the Romulan threat. Accept gravity plating fields that keep even off-phase entities secure (or are corridors the inside of gravity generating tubes?) and viola, problem solved.

Cause and Effect - the trick works for only one viewing, but that's all that's needed and what a trick it is, it pulls out the punches and with great effects to boot. Nobody's done a time loop episode with such deftness before (Dr Who had, which may have been an inspiration, and as with "Time Squared" the TNG entry one-ups it with some clever innovation). Best of all, it largely retains interest where wavering only starts to kick in toward the end. The timing is just about perfect for this script. It's a highly crafted, marvelous episode. Bonus points for anyone who watched commercials circa 1991 and fathomed a possible in-joke when the name "Fletcher" was uttered since Ensign Fletcher caught Geordi who had almost fallen off the catwalk (was (s)he a swimsuit model? What do they do in Engineering? And why can't we have a proper look? :D) and couldn't get up...
 
Season 5 was the last season where Michael Piller rewrote the scripts. The season got a bad rap originally because there was too many political and kid episodes and because I Borg was a very sappy and a very lowkey followup to the epic Best Of Both Worlds. Looking back at it I think it's one of TNG's best seasons.

I really like Violations, Conundrum, and The Next Phase.

I like Darmok, Ensign Ro, The Silicon Avatar, Unification Part I, Disaster, A Matter of Time, The Game, The Masterpiece Society, Hero Worship, Power Play, Ethics, The Outcast, The First Duty, The Perfect Mate, The Cost of Living, and The Inner Light.

I dislike Redemption Part II, Unification Part II, New Ground, Cause And Effect, I Borg, Imaginary Friend, and Times Arrow.

I find on average that there are atleast 5-7 episodes each TNG season that I don't enjoy. That's not a bad batting average.
 
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I voted Cause & Effect. It's such a cool concept and feels pretty flawlessly carried out. Something interesting/unique here is that this episode has no b plot(or c plot), and successfully uses the ensemble.

And this has to be one of the most memorable episodes that I saw as a kid, that I thought of when thinking of TNG years later after having forgotten 90% of the other episodes.
 
I voted for Conundrum. It feels like a classic TNG episode where the crew has to work together to solve a mystery and save lives. It has a clever premise and could actually be described as science fiction. There's some great character moments like when Worf assumes he is the Captain. "Perhaps we should not jump to conclusions-I am decorated as well!"

I also enjoyed the Riker-Troi-Ro triangle. One of my favorite scenes between Riker and Troi is when Troi can feel her connection to Riker despite her loss of memory.

It's well directed and I liked Dennis McCarthy's score.:techman:
 
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Excellent

Darmok
Ensign Ro
The FIrst Duty
The Next Phase

Good

Redemption II
Disaster
Unification I & II
A Matter of Time
Conundrum
Power Play
Cause and Effect
The Inner Light (I've lost some love with this episode over the years because of the whole Mind-Rape thing)
I Borg

Average

Silicon Avatar
The Game
Hero Worship
The Masterpiece Society
The Outcast
Ethics
Times Arrow I
Violations
Perfect Mate

Bad

New Ground
Imaginary Friend
Cost of Living

I voted for Ensign Ro because that episode is so underrated and it starts the Arc for the Bajorans that will last for the next 8 years.
 
I see that Cost of Living gets little love. I actually think it's an entertaining hour of television. It's written by the great Peter Allen Fields who left TNG to write some of DS9's best episodes. I could have done without the mud bath but for a Lwaxanna Troi show, it's not bad.
 
I see that Cost of Living gets little love. I actually think it's an entertaining hour of television. It's written by the great Peter Allen Fields who left TNG to write some of DS9's best episodes. I could have done without the mud bath but for a Lwaxanna Troi show, it's not bad.

I've gained a little appreciation for it over the years because it was the first episode Barrett was in after the death of Gene so she kinda broke the fourth wall during the scene with Alexander in her quarters. Still, everything having to do with the Holodeck brought this episode down a lot.
 
I thought the weakest episode of season 5 was Imaginary Friend. I barely sat through it in '92 and I couldn't make it through it during my rewatch when I got the bluray. One kiddie episode too many.

Hero Worship was the best kid episode of season 5. The black cluster was spooky.
 
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I'm not sure I have a favorite episode. Collectively, I love them all. Darmok has its warts, but is a great subject. The Inner Light, I, Borg, Ensign Ro, Hero Worship, Silicon Avatar, great storytelling and timeless Trek.

The Game (Lefler is the ultimate Mary Sue! Wesley did one too many stories!), Time's Arrow (Seriously, we meet Samuel Clemens and Guinan? This is a Sixth season episode as far as I am concerned), The Perfect Mate (Ferengi and the worst episode since TOS in how it treats women), and New Ground (Lwaxana, Alexander, and some very bad humor. Skip), Violations, and Imaginary Friend (seriously, these last two are Voyager episodes) are my least favorite.

I voted for my favorite scene, above. It's too hard to choose just one.
 
Armus, TNG really was intent on shoving kiddie episodes down our throats.

TNG did set up the notion of kids on a starship - but unlike finding new ways for separating the saucer with dramatic interest and integrity, they tried a lot harder to find ways to make kids on the show even remotely entertaining. Which didn't often work, especially (IMHO) if the demographic watching isn't a child and there's no activity they're going to relate to. But TNG's handling of the kiddies always felt awkward - not in terms of getting the audience to feel as uncomfortable as Picard was but because the makers (I felt) didn't know what to do with the concept. Contrast to, say, a recent episode of "The Orville" where the child subplot of the episode "Jaloja" was actually good but sorta had to be because the main plot was utter tosh. But no series juggling so much could sustain doing kid shows too long, regardless. There's only so much one could do. And is it that great an idea to explore to begin with? (Not really, the franchise never needed kids to get kids to watch as TV characters are effectively... imaginary friends. :D )

Or to make a long story short, TNG should have found more ways to excitingly detach the saucer and ditched all the kids off on Aldea (and for all the kid-centric shows, "When The Bough Breaks" is arguably one of the best - again, IMHO), since little Harry really didn't want to do his 6th grade Calculus and all. But then we'd miss out on seasons 2-5 where Wesley actually got halfway decent scenes from time to time.
 
Interesting choice with Hero Worship. And no Cause and Effect?

It is tiresome in a re-watch. You know the shtick, you know how they solve it, and Clues did it better. I can only listen to Picard yell "all hands abandon ship!" So many times.

As for Hero Worship, it's a character drama about the show's major theme--loss. The little boy might as well be Picard. He takes too much credit for not stopping the Borg. He emulates Data's lack of emotion "There are times I envy you."

It is the only kid episode I like. Maybe Pen Pals. The Bonding, which has a kid, but is really about the trials of loss and sacrifices of Starfleet officers, which informs not only Wesley's backstory with Picard, but also informs every battle they have, earning Picard's lesson with 18 missing crew members.
 
It is tiresome in a re-watch. You know the shtick, you know how they solve it, and Clues did it better. I can only listen to Picard yell "all hands abandon ship!" So many times.

Interesting. When I rewatch it I'm still hooked. But then, I don't get as excited about twists as most people do, and I seem to gravitate more towards craftsmanship.
 
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