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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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This from a guy who regularly haunts The Walking Dead threads forecasting its doom with every report of ratings. Nevermind its still one the highest rated dramas on cable...
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BS. 360 million for a superhero film this late in the well-developed game of superhero films productions (using 1998's Blade as the marker, or first of a new wave of Big Two comic adaptations) is a disaster. By now, there would be no excuse to crank out something so off the mark about a character who is no stranger to WB (obviously), or the popular culture, yet they turned him into a farce, and the poor results stand as evidence of that.
You can believe whatever you desire, but BvS was a success and as expected, earned more than the first entry in the DCEU, and certainly set up the natural follow up in Wonder Woman.
Bvs is the biggest success ever. That's why wb decided there is no need to change course and carried on with snyder's vision. Yup, that's precisely what happened.
As for the walking dead, if you don't understand the meaning behind a drop from 17 million viewers to 4 million in 3 years, you don't really understand anything, do you?
And no doom and gloom was ever predicted. That's your shitty interpretation.
As for the walking dead, if you don't understand the meaning behind a drop from 17 million viewers to 4 million in 3 years, you don't really understand anything, do you?
And no doom and gloom was ever predicted. That's your shitty interpretation.
You can't just say "Yawn." You need to accompany it with the appropriate GIF of Christopher Walken from Batman Returns. Jus' sayin'.
Sadly, I can't really think of a plausible way to do another Henry Cavill Superman movie after the events of Batman v. Superman. How do you explain Clark Kent no longer being dead and still keep the secret identity intact?
Reminds me of the bit from the Watchmen graphic novel where Ozymandias exchanges letters with his legal department about whether Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Spectre can trademark their illegal vigilante identities.
Are we sure it's going to be an origin story? I know that he wants a younger Batman but that doesn't automatically mean origin story. Heck, Tom Holland is the youngest Spider-Man that we've had so far and he's the only one that hasn't had an origin story.
I don't think that it was because of Daredevil. He took a lot of crap in 2003 but I think that had more to do with how ubiquitous his romance with J-Lo was in the tabloids. His movies were just an easy target. I think that his work in Daredevil was great.
I think that's a bit unfair to Rupert Grint. His character never had the same depth or range as Harry and Hermione but I think his performance as Ron was the one that entered the franchise fully formed. He's not asked to do much besides be the cowardly comic relief sidekick but he hit that one note consistently and well.
On the other hand, Radcliffe and Watson both grew into their parts over the course of the franchise. You can actually pinpoint the exact movies where they finally learned how to act-- Watson in The Prisoner of Azkaban and Radcliffe in The Half-Blood Prince.
Robert Pattinson probably has a lot of talent but his work in Twilight is one of the worst performances I've ever seen in anything. Sounds from his descriptions that he was getting awful direction, so I guess I can't blame him too much. Still some really baffling facial expressions though.
Well, that would free him from the fetters of a shirt again.
Shitty costume and she looked very unconvincing in it.
In the Death of Superman arc in the comics, I think they revealed that Clark had been trapped in an air pocket under the rubble from the Doomsday battle the whole time, with access to canned food and water or something. But then, didn't BvS show him buried as Clark? So that would be harder to explain away. Still, comics have solved such problems before.
(There's a surviving Superman radio episode that ends with Clark being shot point-blank and falling into the ocean in front of Lois and a bunch of other people. He has to feign being killed so he can get out of sight and turn into Superman, but he's convinced that there's no way he'll ever be able to explain Clark being alive and that he'll have to abandon that identity now. Unfortunately, the following episodes have been lost, so I have no idea how they solved the problem.)
After stopping a bank robbery Superman hears something with his super hearing and beneath some nearby rubble he finds a Cold War era bomb shelter with two kids inside living off canned food and emergency rations. it gives him an idea and with the aid of the Matrix Supergirl who's a shape-shifter he gets her to pose as Clark Kent and he 'finds' him in another shelter, complete with the mullet Superman then sported as of course, he couldn't get to a barber and gave the opportunity for Superman and Clark Kent to be seen and photographed together.
Warner considered it a disappointment because it was their TOP TIER IP Heroes in a 'Team Up' of sorts. "Marvel's The Avengers" was primarily (at the time) second and third string Marvel 'heroes'; yet 4 years earlier, it got critical acclaim and made $623 million domestically and 1.5 Billion worldwide.
BvS (in 2016) made $330 million domestic and $873 million worldwide - again 4 years later with higher ticket prices.
WB figured "Hey ANY Superman, Batman (plus a small insert of Wonder Woman) should outperform a group of 2nd and 3rd string marvel heroes, especially 4 years later - REGARDLESS of the script (because WB knew the script doesn't matter, just the effects and the 'novelty' of seeing the Worlds Finest teamed on the BIG screen...")
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Apparently it's Vanessa Hudgens being eyed for Catwoman.
Well, he did just write a very celebrated "Mister Miracle" series. I've not read it, yet, but at least he seems to know his New Gods lore.
The Mister Miracle series was awesome. I want to read it a second time when I get the chance.
Holy crap! This is amazing! My excitement for this movie just quadrupled.
It would be great to see a decent version of Steppenwolf on the screen.
One thing that DC does really well is its cosmic characters. There are really wonderful layers of mythology intertwined throughout multiple series. If the New Gods movie is well done it could really open the door to the Green Lantern Corps, The Omega Men, Hawkworld, Adam Strange, the Legion of Super-Heroes and a lot of other great properties.
One thing that DC does really well is its cosmic characters. There are really wonderful layers of mythology intertwined throughout multiple series. If the New Gods movie is well done it could really open the door to the Green Lantern Corps, The Omega Men, Hawkworld, Adam Strange, the Legion of Super-Heroes and a lot of other great properties.
Tom King is the same kind of writer as John Hickman and modern Grant Morrison: everything he writes comes off like he was talking a nearly fatal dose of illegal substances while writing, and it rarely if ever results in a coherent story. He's the last person who should be helping write a New Gods movie, since he's written the fourth worst New Gods thing ever (after Final Crisis, Death of the New Gods and that bullshit story with evil Big barda in the New 52 Earth 2 bullshit).
DC/WB is trying really hard to be the next FOX when it comes to superhero movies, making sure that the good movies they have never overshadow the fucking stupid shit they seem to prefer to produce.
DC/WB is trying really hard to be the next FOX when it comes to superhero movies, making sure that the good movies they have never overshadow the fucking stupid shit they seem to prefer to produce.
Stick with your strengths.
Buried in Forbes' reporting of Pattinson's Batman casting is the following tidbit:
Forbes usually has good info on stuff like this, according to my observations, so this is encouraging news.
I haven't read any of King's stuff, but other than one opinion which I do not consider worth paying even the slightest bit of attention to, I have nothing but really, really good stuff about his writing. So this should be a very good thing for the movie.
You are like my anti-barometer when it comes to judging the value of stories. If you don't like something then there is a good chance I will--although Death of the New Gods was subpar.
Just to help me out, what definition of "coherent" are you using? It can't be the dictionary definition since I've read everything he's written in comic form and it seems factually wrong to say such a thing.
Good for you, then. In my experience, Tom King couldn't write a coherent story if his life depended on it. If he stuck to ruining D-list heroes like Vision then I wouldn't mind as much (although what he did to Vision was both terrible and completely incoherent), but he then moved on to ruining the New Gods and then somehow writing Batman worse then Scott Snyder. He makes Rob Liefeld look like a competent writer. Hell, at least one or two things Liefeld has done have (mostly accidentally, to be fair) lead to good things in comics. Tom King just produces shit (that Batman fake out wedding should have permanently blacklisted him from the very concept of writing).