Unpopular Trek opinions game
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"No. You were incompetant. YOU WERE INCOMPETENT!!!!"
"Indeed. The record shows that Captain Kirk once held the rank of Admiral. And that Admiral Kirk was broken for taking matters into his own hands in defiance of the regulations of the law!!! DO YOU DENY BEING DEMOTED FOR THESE CHARGES? DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION!!! ANSWER ME NOW!!!!!!!"
I was a lighting technician for a play, just last month, and all I can think of now is when an actor screamed at the top of his lungs, "BECAUSE IT IS MY NAME!!!!!"
"Indeed. The record shows that Captain Kirk once held the rank of Admiral. And that Admiral Kirk was broken for taking matters into his own hands in defiance of the regulations of the law!!! DO YOU DENY BEING DEMOTED FOR THESE CHARGES? DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION!!! ANSWER ME NOW!!!!!!!"
I was a lighting technician for a play, just last month, and all I can think of now is when an actor screamed at the top of his lungs, "BECAUSE IT IS MY NAME!!!!!"
It helped bring a sense of dignity and gravitas to the movie, much like when Plummer played the galactic emperor in "Starcrash" and used that same manner of speaking.
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Same city, actually. Montreal.
I'd say that qualifies as an unpopular opinion.
Nemesis is due for a rewatch. I haven't seen it since 2002.
TMP is what made me a Trekkie. I had previously seen 2 and 3, but it was when I rented TMP out on VHS that I was hooked. So it'll probably always be my favorite. It was only a few months before TVH came out so I was excited to get to see a brand new Trek film at the same time.
And it's not that I don't see it's weaknesses. I can understand why some might like it as you do, as a well made movie lacking in some areas, and even those that dislike it. I just found those weaknesses didn't bother me all that much.
Wow, that tops mine. It's actually my 2nd favorite TNG film. Overall I'd probably place it around the middle of the pack. Of the 4 TNG films Nemesis and First Contact are the two that honestly felt like a movie production (and not an expanded TV episode). I can't honestly visualize those two movies as part of the TV series.
I also liked some of what Nemesis tries to do. The metaphor of the source vs. the reflection (or the mirror), the philosophical question of would Picard be exactly as Shinzon if he lived his life. That leads to the larger question are we all defined by our genetics, by our destiny? Or do we have choices. Now the movie doesn't always do a good job presenting those questions. But those are the types of deeper questions Star Trek asks.
It also has one of the greatest space battle sequences of the movies. A long sustained battle where you see the Enterprise make use of all its weapons. And the collision scene remains of favorite of mine (and the fact that the Enterprise wasn't actually destroyed this time).
I do go with the crowd when it comes to First Contact being my favorite TNG film (and probably 3rd or 4th overall favorite Trek film), partly because the Borg are one of my favorite villains and I loved seeing them in a movie.
Yes, pacing was a problem I'll admit. Though the first time I ever watched it I was gaping a bit too. For 1979 the special effects were impressive and I was a bit in awe.
I do greatly prefer the Directors Edition, more because it had what I thought was far better pacing.
Note to Paramount: still waiting for an announcement of the 40th Anniversary Director's Edition on Blu-Ray. But it has to be this year (I've held out buying the current Blu-Ray hoping someday we get a DE on Blu-Ray). One of the guys that did the revised effects says he still has a saved copy of the updated effects and all Paramount has to do is call.
I checked Memory-Alpha again and as of 2018 one of the producers of the DE of TMP noted they do in fact have all they need, and it was all done with HD in mind. He believes a DE will be released someday on Blu-Ray, it's just a matter of when.
Hopefully Paramount doesn't make me wait for the 50th anniversary of TMP
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Well, that's a first for me.
I went through a bit of an insomnia thing a couple of years ago, and found that putting TMP on was a bit of a miracle cure. If I could not sleep I put it on and I was asleep before the glorious shuttle tour of the enterprise was done. its still on my list in case I go through a hard time being unable to sleep now.
I never saw it as bigotry. She had a character arc where she changed and learned, which is more then Crusher ever got. Plus, Data wasn't a whole race, and pre Measure of a Man wasn't considered alive. She didn't know him yet, or anyone like him anywhere else. She lacked knowledge, and quickly came to change her approach once more information was at her disposal.
I'll debate that: "Q Who?," "Tapestry," "All Good Things," "Death Wish," and "The Q and the Gray" were all good eps, especially those first three.
And "Q-Pid" gave us Worf's best line ever: "I am NOT a Merry Man."
That justifies Q's entire Robin Hood stunt.
Unpopular Opinion: I thought that the whole "Tapestry" story is just insanely wrong. IRL people who are victims of such traumas are usually crippled by PTSD, possibly for life. So the "Junior grade" Picard would have been the stabbed Picard while the one with enough moral fortitude to avoid getting into a pointless, totally moronic fight would have been the one becoming a captain. I never understood why so many people are enamored with this episode which is contrary to common sense. Maybe next time they'll say that you can become a genius engineer who doesn't understand train problems... Wait! They did that, didn't they? 
I could have seen De Lancie doing more roles within various series (he was great in STC). I like the Q character but it just seems that if you overuse the all-powerful god-like being they kind of lose their sting.I'll debate that: "Q Who?," "Tapestry," "All Good Things," "Death Wish," and "The Q and the Gray" were all good eps, especially those first three.
And "Q-Pid" gave us Worf's best line ever: "I am NOT a Merry Man."
That justifies Q's entire Robin Hood stunt.
Mostly though I was trying to be contrarian and have something to say in this thread. I must not think outside the box much.
For me Nemesis having such an uninteresting villain and otherwise unmemorable story makes impossible to forgive Data getting an even less fitting, more throwaway death than Trip. Not to mention the character age problem.
Nemesis came from a time when the franchise popularity was petering out and show runners thought the show needed to be more like B action films to hold desperately on to its last sliver of marketability. So they hired a writer of B action films.
My unpopular opinion: New Trek should have kept moving forward in time.
Nemesis came from a time when the franchise popularity was petering out and show runners thought the show needed to be more like B action films to hold desperately on to its last sliver of marketability. So they hired a writer of B action films.
My unpopular opinion: New Trek should have kept moving forward in time.
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