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Well, now we know who will be in the new cabinet for Alberta. My MLA got picked for Minister of Education.

While it's seen as an honor for a riding to have their MLA in cabinet (and a good practical thing for the extra visibility it gives that riding), this is not good. While she's one of the few whose pre-political work resume actually has something to do with the cabinet post she was given, it's for the wrong reason.

There's been a back-and-forth here for years about GSAs (Gay-Straight Alliance groups). There are an awful lot of paranoid religious parents and groups and Catholic schools wailing that these are "ideological sex clubs" and they seem to have the notion that the intention is to turn their precious darlings into gay or transgender people (they also seem to think attendance is compulsory when it's the same as any after-school or noon hour extra-curricular activity that is entirely voluntary).

Faith-based schools in Alberta get government funding, and so they're required to follow the official curriculum and whatever other rules apply to non-faith based schools. The only exception is that Catholic schools here are allowed to do an end run around the Charter of Rights and discriminate in their hiring practices on the basis of religion. Even a janitor in a Catholic school has to prove he's a practicing Catholic before being hired.

So Jason Kenney and his new Minister of Education are reluctantly allowing GSAs for now (the Supreme Court said they had to), but they'd really prefer that the teachers out the kids who join them to the parents. Apparently the fact that it's not safe for some of these kids to let their parents know this information just whooshes right on by.

There are numerous faith-based schools not in compliance with the previous government's orders to allow GSAs without outing the kids who join, and they were given an overly-generous amount of time to get this settled and done, or lose their public funding. Those schools must be relieved that we now have a premier who doesn't understand the concept of separation of church and state.
 
So, um, apparently Canada is #3 in the world... for drunkenness.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...drunkenness-and-20-know-they-need-help-report

I'm not sure whether we should try harder to lay off the bottle... or to try to make a run for #1! ;)

The two countries that beat us? The US was #2, and the UK was #1. (Although note there were only representatives from 36 countries taking part in this "global" survey.)
Depending on what happens in the federal election in October, we very well might achieve #2.

(not by my efforts; my worst beverage-related vices are Coke and Dr Pepper)
 
So, um, apparently Canada is #3 in the world... for drunkenness.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...drunkenness-and-20-know-they-need-help-report

I'm not sure whether we should try harder to lay off the bottle... or to try to make a run for #1! ;)

The two countries that beat us? The US was #2, and the UK was #1. (Although note there were only representatives from 36 countries taking part in this "global" survey.)

And a certain Ontario premier wants to have booze on sale everywhere at 9am in the morning.
 
Depending on what happens in the federal election in October, we very well might achieve #2.

Ugh, don't remind me. :crazy:

(not by my efforts; my worst beverage-related vices are Coke and Dr Pepper)

I think I've mentioned on the board before that I can't drink for medical reasons, so I'm not going to be much help there either.

And a certain Ontario premier wants to have booze on sale everywhere at 9am in the morning.

It's five o'clock somewhere? :rolleyes:

Ford doesn't even drink, himself. (I guess his brother hoarded all those types of vices in the family.)

https://www.thestar.com/business/2019/04/26/why-is-premier-doug-ford-so-obsessed-with-liquor.html
(Paywall, sorry!)
 
Depending on what happens in the federal election in October, we very well might achieve #2.
Yeah if Trudeau gets in again it will be a disaster

Scheer though is slowly turning into a wannabe Trudeau clone, it's been quite remarkable to watch

Not a single decent candidate, except perhaps Maxim Bernier, although he sometimes comes off a bit too strong
 
Yeah if Trudeau gets in again it will be a disaster

Scheer though is slowly turning into a wannabe Trudeau clone, it's been quite remarkable to watch

Not a single decent candidate, except perhaps Maxim Bernier, although he sometimes comes off a bit too strong
Trudeau has been a disappointment, but I do not want a Harper clone (honestly, if you think he's not still pulling some of the back room strings both in Ottawa and in Edmonton with his lapdog Jason Kenney as our new Premier, I have ocean-front property in Red Deer to sell you).

The only federal party leader I like right now is Elizabeth May.

An interesting little article came up in this morning's CBC newsfeed:

Mike Pence is coming Ottawa - but why hasn't Trump made a state visit to Canada yet?

article said:
U.S. Vice-President Mike Pence is coming to Canada next week to meet Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to discuss what the U.S. Embassy calls the "swift adoption" of the new NAFTA — but there's no sign of President Donald Trump planning a similar visit north of the border.

Trump is, instead, set to embark on a state visit to the United Kingdom in June, his second visit there as U.S. president.

Canada seems to be much lower on POTUS's travel do-to list. Trump has ventured north of the border only briefly to visit his country's closest ally and largest trading partner, and did so much later in his term than his recent predecessors.

Trump went to the U.K. in July 2018 on a working visit to meet British Prime Minister Theresa May and Queen Elizabeth II. His upcoming trip follows on an invitation first extended shortly after he took office in 2017.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau extended just such an invitation to Trump early in the president's mandate. Trump hasn't said yes yet.

That tardy RSVP breaks with recent tradition. From Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama, recent U.S. presidents have established a loose practice of making Canada the first or second foreign country they visit after being elected for the first time.

Obama, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton all made Canada their first foreign stop upon taking office, while Reagan and George W. Bush made it their second.

Every American presidential visit to Canada is different. Some are cast as working trips, others are planned as official or state affairs, and sometimes the trip north occurs when Canada just happens to be hosting an international summit.

A state visit is the most formal type of presidential visit. It typically includes a meeting with the Governor General, a state dinner, military honours and the planting of a ceremonial tree at Rideau Hall.

An official visit is one step down from a state visit on the formality front. It's generally what happens when a president comes to Canada at the invitation of the government, and typically includes military honours.

On working visits, the president is hosted by the prime minister; such occasions involve no military honours or other ceremonial displays.

Trump paid a working visit to Canada last year: the president arrived June 8 and left the following morning after attending the G7 summit in La Malbaie, Que.

Trump's attendance at the meeting did little for Canada U.S. relations. The day before Trump flew into Quebec — and shortly after his administration extended controversial steel and aluminum tariffs to cover exports from Canada, Mexico and the European Union — he described Trudeau on Twitter as "being so indignant" in talking up Canada-U.S. relations without mentioning Canada's dairy quotas.

After a day of meetings that extended late into the night, Trump left the summit the next day, June 9, to fly to Singapore for a summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. Once aboard Air Force One, Trump tweeted that he was instructing his officials to withdraw support for the summit's closing communiqué.

Trump's visit to Canada was a diplomatic train wreck. It also broke with recent tradition; Canada was not the first, or even the second country Trump visited after being elected, but the 17th. And the visit came almost a year and a half into his mandate.

"It's a gesture, but maybe the Canadian government is secretly relieved that Trump hasn't accepted the (formal) offer yet," said Roland Paris, associate professor of public and international affairs at the University of Ottawa. He was a foreign policy adviser to Trudeau before returning to academia in mid-2016.

"I think any Canadian government might be afraid of what might come out of his mouth.

"The government has not forgotten how Trump behaved at the G7 meeting, but I am sure that the invitation is genuine and that they would accommodate and welcome him were he to come."

Both Obama and Bush Sr. came to Canada for working visits a month after taking office. George W. Bush and Bill Clinton came for working visits three months after taking office, and Reagan went north for a state visit — and addressed Parliament — two months after taking office.

Look beyond recent presidential history, however, and it becomes clear that the tradition of presidents making Canada one of their first foreign destinations after taking office is neither absolute nor consistent.

In July, 1923, Warren Harding became the first U.S. president to visit Canada. It was his third and final trip abroad, taking place a little over two years after he assumed office.

Calvin Coolidge and Herbert C. Hoover didn't visit Canada at all. Dwight D. Eisenhower came to Canada in November, 1953, 10 months after becoming president; Canada was his third foreign trip. Harry S. Truman made Canada the sixth country he visited as president in July 1947.

John F. Kennedy, made Canada his first destination, travelling to Ottawa for a state visit and addressing Parliament four months after taking office in 1961.

Kennedy's successor, Lyndon B. Johnson, also made Canada his first foreign trip, travelling to Vancouver for informal meetings with Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson in September 1964, 10 months after his elevation to the presidency following Kennedy's assassination.

Canada was the 27th country that Richard Nixon visited. That visit, in April 1972, happened close to the end of his first term; the visit was a formal state affair that saw him address Parliament.

Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford never visited Canada while serving as president.
From my earlier participation in the comments section (sorry, not going to mention my name there), it's obvious that most of the comments can be summed up as "Trump, you're not welcome in Canada. Stay home."
 
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. In any case, I think it's going to be very interesting to see what Mike Pence does and I'm sure all eyes will be on him.
 
So I tried McDonalds' "Great Canadian Tastes" Chocolate Nanaimo McFlurry this weekend. It was good, and certainly chocolatey, but the flavour really didn't evoke "Nanaimo bar" in my mind. So in that sense, it was a disappointment.

Also, I don't know if anyone is interested, but I'll throw it out there just in case. If anyone was hoping to get a pair of those Avengers-themed socks from the Post cereal promotion, but was short a code, I have one code available from a box of Shreddies. I will never use it (not into superheroes), so someone else might as well benefit. So the first Canadian (promotion is only in Canada) who asks for it via PM (not in thread, please), will get it. Just be aware that you need two codes to claim a pair of socks, and any claims have to be made on the promotional site by the end of the day on May 31.
 
I tried Nanaimo bars, and it turns out that I'm allergic to one of the ingredients. Not to mention that they have enough sugar in them to kill a diabetic in practically no time at all.
 
Maybe there's a way to make them without sugar. Have a friend who's also diabetic who makes sugarless Buttertarts and they're amazing.
 
Maybe there's a way to make them without sugar. Have a friend who's also diabetic who makes sugarless Buttertarts and they're amazing.
I found them far too sweet decades before I had to worry about diabetes.

There was something about the chocolate or filling I was allergic to back then. Since that time I've come to learn which kinds of chocolate treats are safe, which are safe in small amounts, and which are not safe in any amount.
 
I've heard about Nanaimo bars (from watching Corner Gas, natch) but I have never eaten one. What do they taste like?
Imagine a dessert rectangle (I've never seen them cut in squares) that contains chocolate as the top layer, a middle layer that's like a combination of extremely sweet icing and pudding, and graham wafer bottom. It's insanely sweet.

Some people love them. I can't handle them.
 
It's sort of like custard dessert squares with a layer of chocolate on top. There are different variations such as vanilla and mint. I've heard there's also a name used for them in the U.S, but I forget what it is. Well, according to Wikipedia, an alternate name to them are Mabel bars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo_bar

It is insanely sweet, as pointed out, and I'm not sure I'd be able to take the McFlurry version. Sweetness upon sweetness = too much sweetness.
 
I've heard about Nanaimo bars (from watching Corner Gas, natch) but I have never eaten one. What do they taste like?

Like chocolatey heaven in your mouth! :D

OK, they're not *that* good, but they're pretty good.

But what they don't taste like is the Chocolate Nanaimo McFlurry! :p

There are different variations such as vanilla and mint.

Interesting... I've made the mint version many times, and a version with a cherry-flavoured filling, but I always thought only the regular custard-flavoured version could be called a "Nanaimo" bar. Live and learn! :D
 
Well, I think the regular version is the most common. The only other one I've had is the mint one, and I haven't heard of the cherry one until now.
 
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