Aircraft carriers don't go on deployments that last several years.
While we do see people taking short leaves, if you don't take your family with you, you're essentially ditching them.
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TNG Child Endangerment?
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While we do see people taking short leaves, if you don't take your family with you, you're essentially ditching them.
But the Earth isn't likely to be ordered to the Neutral Zone.
I think that when a person enters Starfleet, they should have their sexual organs removed so they can not have children and lose any sexual desires. They could then concentrate simply on exploring the galaxy and living a miserable, lonely existence like Jean Luc Picard did. Then we wouldn't have had to see all the shows with some dude trying to get lucky with Troi, Riker spreading his semen all over the galaxy, Llwaxana Troi coming aboard the Enterprise to get laid, and most importantly, the Outrageous Okona never would have been written and filmed.
I think that when a person enters Starfleet, they should have their sexual organs removed so they can not have children and lose any sexual desires. They could then concentrate simply on exploring the galaxy and living a miserable, lonely existence like Jean Luc Picard did. Then we wouldn't have had to see all the shows with some dude trying to get lucky with Troi, Riker spreading his semen all over the galaxy, Llwaxana Troi coming aboard the Enterprise to get laid, and most importantly, the Outrageous Okona never would have been written and filmed.
The obvious flip side of this being that Earth can't dodge when death comes. Starships can.
Really, whenever there's one of these mankind-threatening crises in TNG, about once every two years, a starship is by far the safest place to be.
Timo Saloniemi
apparently the neutral zone can come to earth anytime the romulans want.
in fact this should be on the recruiting posters.
If memory serves, much more than that, on planets, perished from Borg attacks, planets, who didn't have the opportunity to offload families, like was probably true of the ships deployed to Wolf 359, before they assembled that fleet
It's not necessary safe on planets either.
In 'The Best of Both Worlds' before the battle at Wolf 359, the Borg destroyed a colony on Jouret IV, there were nearly a thousand inhabitants that were lost.
Had Enterprise not succeeded in destroying the cube, Earth and billions of lives would have been at danger.
Living on a planet isn't as safe as it sounds. Planets have more people than starships.
In 'The Best of Both Worlds' before the battle at Wolf 359, the Borg destroyed a colony on Jouret IV, there were nearly a thousand inhabitants that were lost.
Had Enterprise not succeeded in destroying the cube, Earth and billions of lives would have been at danger.
Living on a planet isn't as safe as it sounds. Planets have more people than starships.
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One must also remember that the Enterprise was the ship of the show, a lot happened to it.
Imagine a standard Federation ship flying around with no ratings to worry about, there might not be as much going on as on the Enterprise.
Imagine a standard Federation ship flying around with no ratings to worry about, there might not be as much going on as on the Enterprise.
Part of Gene's utopia of the Federation was that you didn't have to crompromise family for service. This was more important, I would think, to facilitate female officers whereas men are traditionally expected to be away from the home. But it's like Gene wanted the Enterprise-D to be like a big office building with an integrated daycare center and that just feels unrealistic. I have the same problem with this theme coming up again in The Orville. I accept it but I don't like the idea of kids on starships. I think once you decide on a starfleet career track you have to accept some compromises. If you want the family life then take an extended leave or exit the service entirely.
It may not be logical to keep your kids on an arguably more-dangerous starship, but is it humane to keep your kids on a planet if you're not going to see them for years (as per the original intent behind TNG which resulted in the civilians onboard policy to begin with)?
How long does an average member of contemporary military services go between seeing their family? I don't think it's a valid comparison.
How long does an average member of contemporary military services go between seeing their family? I don't think it's a valid comparison.
I knew a lot of people that would be away for at least 6 months, there were others, up to a year wasn't that odd either.
Up to a year is significantly less than, say, 1-3 years...or more.
"Wagon Train to the Stars".
American families travelled together through dangerous parts of the USA, too.
American families travelled together through dangerous parts of the USA, too.
Picard:
We've made too many compromises already.
Too many retreats.
They invade our space and we fall back.
They assimilate entire worlds,
and we fall back.
Real space is empty and boring, and if we could explore it for decades on end on mobile cities like the E-D, we’ll do so with families with us. That was the high promise of the idea, I think.
Whenever danger was an issue, they’d separate saucer and address it. Most aliens of the time were nowhere near the Federation’s level of development - ie The Outrageous Okona. There were no Borg, and there was peace with QonoS.
Whenever danger was an issue, they’d separate saucer and address it. Most aliens of the time were nowhere near the Federation’s level of development - ie The Outrageous Okona. There were no Borg, and there was peace with QonoS.
True, or if his dad wasn't such a technophobe they would have had fire suppression in their house.
Starship missions can be up to 5 years, it would be unrealistic to expect humans to be separated from their families for that long, unless the service only wants single, childfree humans to join. Long lived species like Vulcans, 5 years would be nothing
Fire alarms and fire suppression systems should be old tech in the 24th century, if Robert Picard was that old fashioned was he still using horse and buggy? That plotline in Generations was ridiculous.
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