The little punk and his telescope! The neighbors had better keep their curtains drawn.Obviously Trelane wasn't allowed to visit earth by his parents!
So was forced to observe the planet from far away!
JB
when did TOS take place, 23rd century or 22nd century
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Remember, kids: even DS9 got the date for the Eugenics Wars completely wrong and did so with an earnestness that was almost morbid. No Trek series is immune from screwing up dates and chronologies and given when TOS was produced it's a small miracle that the series was as internally consistent with both itself and the rest of the later franchise as it turned out to be.
I prefer the DS9 dating.
Ron Moore did reply online that it wasn’t intentional, since he’d been misled by Khan’s “two hundred years ago” from TWOK.
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1960's originally
But in our hearts and imaginations forever!!
But in our hearts and imaginations forever!!
OK. I'm on page 7. Forgive me if this has already been pointed out.
We have this:
So promotional material from TMP was definitely stating 23rd Century.
We have this:
So promotional material from TMP was definitely stating 23rd Century.
As I surely mentioned before, the first references to the 23rd century were in James Blish's "Space Seed" adaptation in 1967 and The Making of Star Trek in 1968. Since TMoST was the authoritative Trek reference of its day, a number of the ideas it put forth became unquestioned lore and were adopted by later productions, like the century, the idea of Kirk as the youngest captain, the idea of a Klingon-Romulan alliance, the standardized use of "mind-meld" rather than the half-dozen other terms TOS had for it, etc.
Fizzbin?
Just don't make any wisecracks about The Book.
The Art of the Deal is a classic and Made Earth Great Again. Bigly!
That's the time of Duck Dodgers isn't it?
JB
JB
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
Probably because of that accident with the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs. Kids and their poor motor skills.
And this is why we can't have nice things. And a shame, too, those dinosaurs were so cool.
DS9 was a great show, but I haven't seen it since it was in first-run. What were its wrong dates, and from what episode if you recall?
"Doctor Bashir, I Presume?" during Season 5. The episode where we learn Dr. Bashir was genetically enhanced as a child in violation of Federation law. A Starfleet Admiral appears on DS9 in the form of a solid hologram and says that "200 years ago" the Eugenics Wars were fought, implying that Khan and his fellow supermen were ravaging Earth around the year 2173.
Which works better that the 1990's. Come on writers, that was just thirty years away!!!!!
Like someone here once said: "Don't get too tied up on the details." Enjoy the story! The chronology is what it is.
It's not the REAL history of Earth, anyways.
It's not the REAL history of Earth, anyways.
From a 1960s point of view, it was optimistic to suggest that the Third World War would be as much as 30 years away rather than 20 or 10 or 5. Also, people had shorter life expectancies then because they drank and smoked and polluted so heavily. Look at "The Deadly Years" and its expectation that Kirk at the equivalent of his upper 60s would be more decrepit and senile than William Shatner currently is in his mid-80s. So 30 years seemed like more of a long-term forecast to them than it does to us.
Besides, look at some other predictions of science fiction. Lost in Space in 1965 had us sending colony ships to the stars by 1997. Blade Runner in 1982 predicted we'd have multiple interstellar colonies by 2019. "Space Seed" only posited interplanetary sleeper ships 30 years out, which was relatively conservative.
