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Supergirl - Season Four

And this entire arc has no place on this show.

Black Lightning is very much about the family dynamics of the Pierces. This entire season of The Flash was about Barry and Iris dealing with the sudden arrival of their (albeit grownup) daughter. Over on Arrow, Oliver has a kid and another on the way with Felicity, Dig and Lyla have a son, Rene has a daughter (and Sara has 8 kids on Legends :p).

That's just children related stuff, without even going into how almost every character has had a romantic subplot at one point or another...

You're welcome to continue weaseling out as much as you like, but it's pretty evident to everyone why Alex is the only one that has "no place" for you...
 
All of those examples involve the main character.

Your childish insults are noted, as is your fake outrage, but dismissed due to lack of basis in fact. I'm not a fan of forced political correctness, and I am not shy about pointing it out.
 
Can't we just agree that tv babies suck and move on from that? Unless they age the baby up fast I don't think anyone wants to watch a main character changing diapers and trying to get crying infants to sleep. They usually add nothing. Just something that you got to pretend is always in the other room or is being babysitted by any number of people that isn't interesting enough to be in a scene. Roll it out once in awhile to remind the audience the kid does indeed still exist but then right back out so people know it's not going to stop the character from doing interesting things.


Jason
 
Your childish insults are noted, as is your fake outrage, but dismissed due to lack of basis in fact. I'm not a fan of forced political correctness, and I am not shy about pointing it out.

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Alex Danvers is as much a superhero as Batman is. She took out an evil Kryptonian with a kryptonite sword in one-on-one combat. She continues to make great personal sacrifices for the greater good, lately getting a mind wipe for the team that disrupted her relationship with her sister. She's made the grade.
 
All of those examples involve the main character.

Your childish insults are noted, as is your fake outrage, but dismissed due to lack of basis in fact. I'm not a fan of forced political correctness, and I am not shy about pointing it out.
Dig, Lyla, and Rene are pretty much at an equal point with Alex when it comes to their shows.
And even thought the show is call "Supergirl" it really is an ensemble, with Alex, J'Onn, and James at pretty much an equal level as Kara.
And I have to ask Kirk, why the hell do you even watch Supergirl? It's pretty clear you hate everything about it at this point.
 
My problem with the latest episode:

Will Kara/Supergirl EVER grow a brain and not just give the ONLY/ORIGINAL copy of bombshell evidence to someone who has shown they're not trustworthy/honest, etc.? She continues to live up to the name "Stupidgirl" (Seriously, I wish this was one trope the writing staff on this show would finally abandon.)
 
I did think that Kara taking the file straight to the Oval Office was rather silly as a plot device. Wouldn't it be more something that you'd handle through the Justice Department or the Attorney General? Or something you'd break as a news story, prompting a federal investigation? At the very least, it's something you'd take to the Chief of Staff first, since it's the Chief of Staff who decides who and what should be brought to the president's attention.
 
But Peter WAS Spider-Man. He was the main character. We weren't getting a TV show or movie where a new character is introduced and we spend 1/3 of the time on that character's love life, which has absolutely nothing to do with the plot.

Ah, but we did have separate plots focusing on Harry Osborn, Aunt May, et al. That fleshes out a fictional world, so its not operating like bad 80's cartoons or a Cannon movie where its about characters making "bold" calls to action and explosions. Supergirl is far from a perfect show, but it would be rather boring if it was superheroics morning, noon and night.


Can't we just agree that tv babies suck and move on from that? Unless they age the baby up fast I don't think anyone wants to watch a main character changing diapers and trying to get crying infants to sleep. They usually add nothing. Just something that you got to pretend is always in the other room or is being babysitted by any number of people that isn't interesting enough to be in a scene. Roll it out once in awhile to remind the audience the kid does indeed still exist but then right back out so people know it's not going to stop the character from doing interesting things.
Jason

Some people really dislike the idea of babies on this show.

Like it or not, Alex has a natural desire to be a mother and it should be explored. She's not an action figure, where she's tossed around, only serving one, unrealistic purpose and once playtime is over, its back in the toybox. She has to be more than an ear for Kara and "that agent," and being a mother would add dimensions to the character that will not be gained from any other type of plot. Further, it brings more grounding to the show, which is needed.

My problem with the latest episode:

Will Kara/Supergirl EVER grow a brain and not just give the ONLY/ORIGINAL copy of bombshell evidence to someone who has shown they're not trustworthy/honest, etc.? She continues to live up to the name "Stupidgirl" (Seriously, I wish this was one trope the writing staff on this show would finally abandon.)

I wondered about that--if she left copies of this information with James, who would know what to do in the event her story was not believed, or someone tried to suppress it. So far, we have no indication that she left anything with James, so for the time being, that would make her "Stupidgirl" to be sure.
 
On a superhero show, this really isn't necessary. This is why Alex should get a spinoff. This would be like a Superman comic dealing with the domestic issues of Lucy Lane.

Even if this had a place, to do it at the end of the season and waste a third of an episode on something so irrelevant seems like a forced waste of time.

You are equating Alex and Kara as being the equivalent of Lucy Lane and Clark???? :eek:

We are soooo not watching the same TV show. :rolleyes:

Don't take my word on it...

Ever since Supergirl began, its heart has been centered around the most important relationship in Kara Danvers’ life—not her superheroic duties carrying on in her cousin’s shadow, not her myriad love interests, but the bond she’s shared with her adoptive human sister, Alex.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/last-nights-supergirl-flipped-the-script-on-the-shows-b-1831933462

In order to protect her sister, Alex has J’onn wipe her mind of knowing that her little sister is actually an alien. Thus changing the most important relationship on the show for the foreseeable future.

https://fansided.com/2019/02/21/supergirl-menagerie-recap-kara-alex-relationship-reset/

Sheezzz. :crazy:
 
You are equating Alex and Kara as being the equivalent of Lucy Lane and Clark???? :eek:

We are soooo not watching the same TV show. :rolleyes:

Don't take my word on it...

Ever since Supergirl began, its heart has been centered around the most important relationship in Kara Danvers’ life—not her superheroic duties carrying on in her cousin’s shadow, not her myriad love interests, but the bond she’s shared with her adoptive human sister, Alex.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/last-nights-supergirl-flipped-the-script-on-the-shows-b-1831933462

In order to protect her sister, Alex has J’onn wipe her mind of knowing that her little sister is actually an alien. Thus changing the most important relationship on the show for the foreseeable future.

https://fansided.com/2019/02/21/supergirl-menagerie-recap-kara-alex-relationship-reset/

Sheezzz. :crazy:
It's been the entire point of the show since the pilot. Alex is the second character introduced and treated as the one most important to Kara's life.

Maybe the show just isn't for some people who clearly feel like it personally attacks them for some very odd reason.
 
Alex finding a kid and not getting it is incredibly boring but so have various minor plots like Kara getting Mon'El a job.

Its a TV show. Sometimes it happens.

But I don't why I'm bothering arguing about it anyway as the man's line is drawn in the sand about everything.
 
Alex finding a kid and not getting it is incredibly boring but so have various minor plots like Kara getting Mon'El a job.
Kara getting Mon-El a job was funny, at least.

Speaking of, given what we now know about Eve, was her banging Mon-El part of some complex deep-cover scheme years in the making, or just a case of, "What Lex doesn't know won't hurt him"?
 
And I have to ask Kirk, why the hell do you even watch Supergirl? It's pretty clear you hate everything about it at this point.

I only hate the politics and check the box political correctness, and I have a right to point out that offending half the audience isn't a smart way to run a TV show, which does explain losing 1/3 of the audience year to year.

When the show decides to actually do a show about a heroine from Krypton, and stops with the above, it's actually quite good, and I've said so. My hope is that they decide to hire some writers instead of activists.

Ever since Supergirl began, its heart has been centered around the most important relationship in Kara Danvers’ life—not her superheroic duties carrying on in her cousin’s shadow, not her myriad love interests, but the bond she’s shared with her adoptive human sister, Alex.

A character created just for this show, that didn't exist in the comics. Also, Alex's love life or her adopting a child is not relevant to anything to do with Supergirl.

In order to protect her sister, Alex has J’onn wipe her mind of knowing that her little sister is actually an alien. Thus changing the most important relationship on the show for the foreseeable future.

A relevant and interesting storyline which affects both Kara and Alex. Far more relevant than stopping in the last few episodes to have an irrelevant 20 minute break to hear Alex whine about motherhood to someone who wasn't even on the show until a few weeks prior.
 
I wonder if Alex will stay in canon post-show or will she sort of be in some middle place like Cloe from "Smallville."


Jason
 

No -- she only appeared in the comics based on the TV show's continuity. That's separate from the main DC continuity. The current DC Universe has incorporated Jeremiah and Eliza Danvers as Kara's adoptive parents (or actually DEO agents posing as her adoptive parents), but not Alex. I think they've used Cameron Chase (the head of the DEO in the comics continuity) as the approximate equivalent of Alex.
 
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